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Cardinal Müller: Benedict XVI could not keep silent because he saw the ‘danger’
LifeSite News ^ | January 17, 2020 | Diane Montagna

Posted on 01/17/2020 7:55:19 AM PST by ebb tide

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1 posted on 01/17/2020 7:55:19 AM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 01/17/2020 7:56:50 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

1 corinthians 9:5

“Don’t we have the right to take a believing wife along with us, as do the other apostles and the Lord’s brothers and Cephas?”


3 posted on 01/17/2020 8:20:49 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: ebb tide

I never understood why priests had to be celibate in the first place.

A family man with wife and children could be a great priest - having children is an experience you cannot understand until you have some.


4 posted on 01/17/2020 8:52:44 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: Rurudyne
1 corinthians 9:5

“Don’t we have the right to take a believing wife along with us, as do the other apostles and the Lord’s brothers and Cephas?”


That's one translation. Mine renders the line as "Have we not the power to lead about a woman, a sister, as well as the rest of the apostles, and the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?" (Douay-Rheims, Challoner revision)

St. Paul who wrote this, of course, did not marry. In other passages he speaks of the virtue of remaining unmarried that you may better serve God.
5 posted on 01/17/2020 9:06:02 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Rurudyne

“Have we not power to carry about a WOMAN, A SISTER, as well as the rest of the apostles, and the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?” 1 Corinthians 9:5 D-R Bible

“[5] “A woman, a sister”: Some erroneous translators have corrupted this text by rendering it, a sister, a wife: whereas, it is certain, St. Paul had no wife (chap. 7 ver. 7, 8) and that he only speaks of such devout women, as, according to the custom of the Jewish nation, waited upon the preachers of the gospel, and supplied them with necessaries.” - D-R Bible Commentary

Assuming for a moment Paul was speaking about a wife...

“...Nevertheless, we have not used this power: but we bear all things, lest we should give any hindrance to the gospel of Christ.” 1 Corrinthians 9:12


6 posted on 01/17/2020 9:06:36 AM PST by Grey182 (A Catholic Bishop Emeritus is still a Bishop, a Pope Emeritus... 209.157.64.200)
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To: Mr. K
A family man with wife and children could be a great priest

No man can serve two masters...
7 posted on 01/17/2020 9:06:42 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Grey182

So, y’all really think early Christians approved of church leaders being accompanied on sometimes long journeys by women who were not their wives or whose husbands were not present?

Really?

What about ideas like not giving unbelievers material to slander the way by gossip and muckraking?


8 posted on 01/17/2020 9:18:05 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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I never understood why priests had to be celibate in the first place.

I recommend you read Benedict's/Sarah's book. Maybe then you'll understand.

9 posted on 01/17/2020 9:27:16 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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So, y’all really think early Christians approved of church leaders being...

Since when has the Church been a democracy? That's how we got the protestant churches.

10 posted on 01/17/2020 9:39:33 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

No, the Protestant movement started because the RCC had gone off the rails.


11 posted on 01/17/2020 9:41:21 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

Like the protestants marrying homos, approving abortion, female “priests”, etc.?


12 posted on 01/17/2020 9:45:32 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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13 posted on 01/17/2020 9:52:28 AM PST by cartan
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To: Rurudyne

Thus...

“...Nevertheless, we have not used this power: but we bear all things, lest we should give any hindrance to the gospel of Christ.” 1 Corrinthians 9:12


14 posted on 01/17/2020 9:59:35 AM PST by Grey182 (A Catholic Bishop Emeritus is still a Bishop, a Pope Emeritus... 209.157.64.200)
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To: ebb tide

People have departed from the knowledge of the Lord and been turned over to reprobate minds ... which is why I say that the sign that is being given to this generation is the sign of Romans 1:18-32.

You may note that the Lavender Mafia is very active in the RCC. Poofters are invading everywhere they are ever unwisely tolerated.

Flagrantly unconverted pew warmers took time to become a thing. And where they controlled their own property some more time after that to start basically showing actual believers the door.

But as for the beginning of Protestantism, do you really imagine they were letting poofters shack up and call it marriage? Etc? Really?


15 posted on 01/17/2020 10:09:53 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: ebb tide
If he "saw the danger" he shouldn't have "fled from the wolves."

Now, we are at the mercy of the wolves with few left to defend us. But unlike His cowardly vicar, Christ will not abandon us.
16 posted on 01/17/2020 10:14:16 AM PST by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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No, the Protestant movement started because the RCC had gone off the rails.

And, since the protest movement subsequently went off the rails in a hundred different directions, we are left in the state of endless division with Christian sects splitting off ad infinitum along the lines of Zeno's dichotomy paradox. Great job, guys.
17 posted on 01/17/2020 10:18:41 AM PST by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: Rurudyne

Sounds hypocritical, coming from a protestant, some of whose churches perform homosexual weddings, approve abortions, ordain openly open lesbian “priests”, “bishops”, etc.

Why don’t you try getting your own houses in order first?


18 posted on 01/17/2020 10:32:25 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Antoninus

It may be that, Pope Benedict XVI intentionally botched his resignation, so that he could catch people on record being unfaithful to the Church, Scripture and/or Tradition (some have hinted at this.) Then at a later date would come out and oops I am still Pope, oh and by the way all y’all are excommunicated. In other words Pope Benedict is playing 3d chess. IDK

The latin used in his resignation is so bad that it could not possibly have been written by Pope Benedict, not to mention the use of improper terminology.


19 posted on 01/17/2020 10:32:28 AM PST by Grey182 (A Catholic Bishop Emeritus is still a Bishop, a Pope Emeritus... 209.157.64.200)
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To: ebb tide

Ah, I see, you have a simplistic view that somehow lumps all Protestants together.

Do you likewise hold the whole RCC responsible for the Lavender Mafia it hasn’t stamped out?

I don’t.

I doubt you do either.


20 posted on 01/17/2020 10:36:43 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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