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‘I cannot keep silent’: Benedict XVI and Cdl Sarah defend priestly celibacy in new book
LifeSite News ^ | January 12, 2020 | Diane Montagna

Posted on 01/12/2020 4:22:11 PM PST by ebb tide

Edited on 01/12/2020 7:10:50 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: circlecity
Therefore there is no celibacy requirement.

How did you come to that conclusion from the life of the Holy Family?

21 posted on 01/12/2020 5:55:01 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

I just gave you the verse from 1st Corinthians


22 posted on 01/12/2020 5:57:00 PM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

You’re quoting an evangelical “bible”.

This is a catholic caucus. Are you a practicing catholic?


23 posted on 01/12/2020 6:03:22 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

The Greek text - UBS or Na 27 - says the exact same thing. I just figured you don’t read Greek.


24 posted on 01/12/2020 6:19:11 PM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

Again, even if his wife were alive, there is no evidence that they did not refrain from marital relations, as the Jewish priests did when they served in the Temple. Constancy in marriage was a precursor to the latter strict requirement for mandatory celibacy. As for 1 Timothy, if the Protestant interpretation for this were true, Paul would be disqualifying himself since he was unmarried. Rather it is a disqualification for those who were married multiple times and showed that they could not remain faithful to marriage or, alternatively, could not remain unmarried after the death of their first wife.


25 posted on 01/12/2020 6:24:51 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: circlecity

Are you a practicing catholic?


26 posted on 01/12/2020 6:29:56 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Petrosius

But first corinthians clearly states that spouses are not to deny conjugal rights to each other , so Peter was married and not celibate.q


27 posted on 01/12/2020 6:39:16 PM PST by circlecity
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To: dp0622

No it wasn’t, that’s just the Protestant lies.


28 posted on 01/12/2020 6:42:46 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: circlecity

The Bible and tradition hold more than one truth within the verses. Concepts are important to understanding. Think “trinity”...


29 posted on 01/12/2020 6:45:26 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: circlecity

Peter was already married when he met Jesus. I think your authority is lacking. You obviously dont believe in the traditions...even though the Bible instructs us to.


30 posted on 01/12/2020 6:47:39 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: circlecity

You are being dogmatic...your entire argument rests on a couple of verses which you keep repeating. Your knowledge is based upon a incorrect bible. 500 years ago, 1,500 years after the Catholics put together the bible your Martin Luther decided to correct God and removed parts of the Biblle he arbitrarily didnt like. He overruled God. You’re doing the same thing. You are showing a great example of the danger of Sola Scriptura..


31 posted on 01/12/2020 6:54:27 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: ebb tide

God bless Pope Benedict XVI and Cardinal Sarah!


32 posted on 01/12/2020 7:07:45 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: circlecity
But first corinthians clearly states that spouses are not to deny conjugal rights to each other, so Peter was married and not celibate.

These are instructions to the common believers, not to those specifically called to priestly service. In any case, you missed the important qualifier that Paul adds:

Do not deprive each other, except perhaps by mutual consent for a time, to be free for prayer, but then return to one another, so that Satan may not tempt you through your lack of self-control. This I say by way of concession, however, not as a command. Indeed, I wish everyone to be as I am, but each has a particular gift from God, one of one kind and one of another. (1 Corinthians 1:5-7)
The Bible does not forbid marital continence for those who wish to practice it.
33 posted on 01/12/2020 7:15:53 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: ebb tide
Let's hear it for the PANZER POPE!
He's right, of course.
34 posted on 01/12/2020 7:51:35 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Salvation
God bless Pope Benedict XVI and Cardinal Sarah!

DITTO!!

35 posted on 01/12/2020 7:52:05 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: sockmonkey

The red herring is that Benedict is still Pope until he fully resigns, which he never did. Can’t have two popes at the same time - either Benedict puts it on the line and takes back full authority, or he is just another opinion to be ignored by Bergoglio and the GAy Mafia.


36 posted on 01/12/2020 8:44:24 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Petrosius
An oft-repeated lie. Priestly celibacy, or more properly constancy, was the rule in the West from Apostolic times.

Do we not have a right to take along a believing wife, even as the rest of the apostles and the brothers of the Lord and Cephas? 1 Corinthians 9:5 NASB

37 posted on 01/13/2020 3:39:02 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: Petrosius
While there is mention of his mother-in-law, there is no mention of his wife or that she was still alive. Even if she were, this does not rule out that he practice priestly constancy. Even in the Eastern churches were they have married priests, like the Jewish priest, they refrain from marital relations prior to celebrating the Mass.

5Do we not have a right to take along a believing wife, even as the rest of the apostles and the brothers of the Lord and Cephas? 1 Corinthians 9:5 NASB

*****

This is really to easy.

38 posted on 01/13/2020 3:40:34 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: circlecity
The Greek text - UBS or Na 27 - says the exact same thing. I just figured you don’t read Greek.

The more correct statement would be, he just doesn't read.

39 posted on 01/13/2020 3:43:45 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide

What’s the official Bible of OMCET?


40 posted on 01/13/2020 3:44:08 AM PST by ealgeone
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