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The Myth of the Nativity Wise Men
Learn Religions ^ | 3/15/2019 | Sam O'Neal

Posted on 12/16/2019 3:32:30 PM PST by Maudeen

Correcting a common misunderstanding of the Christmas season

We all have our pet peeves, right? We all have those little things that seem to bother us more than they should. Well, I hope you'll forgive me if this seems petty, but one of my pet peeves involves the "Wise Men" (or "3 Kings" or "Magi") who are almost always included in nativity scenes and plays that show up each Christmas as depictions of Jesus' birth.

Why do Wise Men bother me? It's not a personal thing. I have nothing against the Magi as individuals, I'm sure. It's just that they weren't actually present on the night when Jesus was born. In fact, they didn't hit the scene until a long time later.

Let's go to the text to see what I mean.

(Excerpt) Read more at learnreligions.com ...


TOPICS: Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: flccksbynight; magi; nativity; shepherdkings; shepherds
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Had a young boy in our Kids' Church tell me he was in the community Christmas program as one of the three kings. I told him I hoped he didn't stop by the manger and then proceeded to tell him about the wise men and their search for "the One Who has been born King of the Jews." Last Sunday he mentioned that he had shared what I had told him to one of the program advisors during practice to which she replied, "Oh, they stopped there, too."

Then this afternoon I received in the mail a children's book about amazing facts and photos in the Bible. There they were in a photo. . .the three wise men at the manger. I decided to contact the publisher and the customer service representative indicated that he was going to forward my concern to their editorial board.

We all know it's not just one book. . .not one publisher.

1 posted on 12/16/2019 3:32:30 PM PST by Maudeen
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To: Maudeen

We three kings of Orient are...Come on, everybody sing.


2 posted on 12/16/2019 3:37:23 PM PST by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: Maudeen

3 posted on 12/16/2019 3:37:25 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Maudeen

What is your point?


4 posted on 12/16/2019 3:38:25 PM PST by Fungi
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To: dsc

As we walked, we smoked a cigar.


5 posted on 12/16/2019 3:39:26 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Maudeen
Not to worry.

Why not grab yourself an eggnog with a shot of Jameson, and enjoy the season.

6 posted on 12/16/2019 3:39:46 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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To: Maudeen
Correcting a common misunderstanding of the Christmas season

We all have our pet peeves, right? We all have those little things that seem to bother us more than they should. Well, I hope you'll forgive me if this seems petty, but one of my pet peeves involves the "Wise Men" (or "3 Kings" or "Magi") who are almost always included in nativity scenes and plays that show up each Christmas as depictions of Jesus' birth.

Why do Wise Men bother me? It's not a personal thing. I have nothing against the Magi as individuals, I'm sure. It's just that they weren't actually present on the night when Jesus was born. In fact, they didn't hit the scene until a long time later.

Let's go to the text to see what I mean.

I see you left your Italians on. Was the entire article in Italian?

7 posted on 12/16/2019 3:39:49 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Maudeen

You’re smart. Keep letting people know.


8 posted on 12/16/2019 3:39:56 PM PST by workerbee (America finally has an American president again.)
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(Excerpt) Read more at learnreligions.com ...

Obviously, you wanted this to remain a myth.


9 posted on 12/16/2019 3:40:42 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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I feel the same...it is not biblically correct...therefore, I do not include the Wise Men in my manger...just a personal thing with me too.


10 posted on 12/16/2019 3:41:04 PM PST by ~Vor~
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Not wise enough to post the entire article while she had the chance. The wise men would have known to post the entire thing, in their wisdom, as they were wise.


11 posted on 12/16/2019 3:44:46 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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I do not include the Wise Men in my manger...just a personal thing with me too.

I won't argue with anyone who doesn't, but I put them there, knowing they didn't show up for at least a year afterward.

OTOH, in the Western church's liturgical calendar, the first 30 years or so of Jesus' life are covered in 12 days (His baptism and Epiphany occur on Jan 6), so in terms of the church year the Magi show up around Boxing Day anyway...

12 posted on 12/16/2019 3:45:26 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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There are historic errors which have developed over time.

For example, haven’t we all heard that Jesus was not really born on December 25th? Yet we all celebrate then.

I’ve also heard our calendar is wrong. I’ve heard historians believe Jesus was born somewhere between 4 BC and 6 BC. But this gets back to the fact that we really don’t know the exact date of Christ’s birth, or year.


13 posted on 12/16/2019 3:46:27 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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(Excerpt) Read more at

There was a magi convention in Bethlehem that weekend! Prove me wrong but post it here!


14 posted on 12/16/2019 3:47:24 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido

Italics


15 posted on 12/16/2019 3:48:05 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.(DT4POTUS))
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To: Larry Lucido

https://reasonsforhopejesus.com/who-were-the-three-wise-men/


16 posted on 12/16/2019 3:48:10 PM PST by Maudeen (http://ThereIsHopeinJesus.com/)
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To: ~Vor~

I don’t include in my manger because I have a small yard and already have Baby Jesus, Joseph, Mary, Cow and Camel.


17 posted on 12/16/2019 3:49:03 PM PST by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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It’s in every Christmas hymn, book, story, movie, TV show etc I’ve ever seen, since 1949.


18 posted on 12/16/2019 3:49:22 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Maudeen

I read somewhere that they were from Persia. I guess being East of Israel qualifies as the Orient. They were probably astrologers.

Oh, none of them would have been from Sub-Saharan Africa. Probably were not gay either.


19 posted on 12/16/2019 3:49:26 PM PST by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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The cathedral in Cologne has the bodies of the Three Kings; they’ve been there since the twelfth century.


20 posted on 12/16/2019 3:50:01 PM PST by Captain Walker
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