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Msgr Bux calls on Cardinal Sarah to exorcize site of Vatican Pachamama Idolatry
LaFeQuotidiana ^ | November 11, 2019 | Michele M. Ippolito

Posted on 11/13/2019 7:25:41 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o

Monsignor Bux calls for @Card_R_Sarah (prefect of the Congregation of Divine Worship) to “perform an exorcism” to reconsecrate Santa Maria in Transpotina and St Peter’s, after Pachamama rituals/processions took place, last month.


That's all I know. I took the URL and ran it through Google Translate to get the whole article translated, and here it is in that garble known as Google English (touched up just a bit for bare intelligibility).


To exorcise, to purify it from the idols, the Basilica of St. Peter: this is the clamorous proposal of the counselor of Pope Ratzinger, the well-known theologian Monsignor Nicola Bux.

Nicola Bux, a priest of the archdiocese of Bari, studied and taught in Jerusalem and Rome. Professor of Oriental liturgy and theology of the sacraments, Monsignor Bux was an expert at the synod of bishops on the Eucharist. Bishop Bux was a consultant for the Congregations for the Doctrine of the Faith and for the Causes of Saints and consultant for the international theological journal "Communio". Benedict XVI appointed Msgr. Bux consultor of the Office of Liturgical Celebrations of the Supreme Pontiff.

Monsignor Bux, we see the now discussed Pachamama not only in the Traspontina church of Rome, but also in St. Peter's, what do you think?

"True worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, the Father seeks such worshipers "(Jn 4:23). "In spirit" means that worship is not confined to one holy place, like the temple of Jerusalem. To the Jews. "In truth" means that it is not contaminated by idolatry or syncretism, that is, things produced by our hands. The church is not just a gathering place, but the abode of God with man, therefore it is called 'house of God'. It is the "Heaven that descends on earth", the Presence of the Lord who comes to save. The Dedication Rite remembers it. This is the Catholic identity: if it is lost, everything is destined to collapse.

A sacrilege has been committed, that is, it has been desecrated or treated unworthily as a sacred place. Sacrilege is a grave sin - says the Catechism of the Catholic Church - especially when it is committed against the Eucharist, which is present in churches, guarded and adored. The sacred space helps man not to forget God: if the church, as has been the case for some decades, becomes a multi-purpose hall for concerts, conferences and other human activities, where will the man go to seek God? Communists turned churches into ballrooms, gyms, factories, etc. so that the human soul in search would stop at man and thus stop looking for God.

When, then, it is the ecclesiastics themselves enthroning an idol - caricature of the true God and work of satan - for sure, as the Scripture teaches - the Lord abandons the temple, and we will have to bring Him back.

The temple is a symbol of our soul: if we sully it with demonic acts, the Spirit abandons it. Let us not forget how the Apostle writes: If one destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him. Because holy is the temple of God that you are "(1 Cor 3:17). Cardinal Sarah, prefect of Divine Worship, could perform an exorcism in St. Peter's and thus purify the basilica ".

Monsignor Bux, What is your opinion of the overall progress of the work of the synod on the Amazon?

"The only reason the Church should deal with a region of the world is because the Lord asked her to make the Gospel known to the ends of the earth. The synod was based on the assumption that the Amazon is a rich region but her people are poor, destitute. And the Lord has come to evangelize the poor, for whom the Church must have a preferential option - not absolute as liberation theology would like - because with poverty, they experience one of the permanent consequences of Original sin. Poverty is social inequality, lack of absolute necessities. For example, someone equipped with a mobile phone, which is superfluous, often expensive, or able to pay the smuggler, does not give the right to be counted among the poor.

Instead the Church, which, at its origins "lacked the necessities" (2 Cor 8: 7-14) and still today, in different parts of the world, is persecuted, this is so poor and made up of the poor. The Church knows poverty due to the fact that her preaching has greater acceptance from the poor. Already for the prophets, poverty was the most favorable ground for faith.

This is the reason why Jesus evangelizes the poor - I emphasize, evangelizes - which means, to make known the news that with Jesus Christm God came to save the world. The Church and its saints who for two millennia have turned to the most derelict, this has not forgotten: the popes Gregory and Leo have evangelized the 'barbarians', who were the poor of the time, up to Francis Xavier and Teresa of Calcutta; together with the body and, more than this destined to perish, they dealt with the spirit to save souls forever; for this, they taught Christian doctrine, prayers, administered the sacraments, shared goods ...

The poor must be evangelized, that is brought to conversion, as soon as they are materially helped. Therefore, poverty is a permanent condition, due to Original Sin. Therefore Jesus said: "The poor will always have them with you and you do not always have me"?

Not having Christ is true poverty. The synod did not deal with this, because the salvation of souls and the glory of God no longer seem to be the reason for the existence of the Church. Today's bishops intervene in social controversies, stuttering the sentences of politicians and trade unionists, instead of speaking to workers of the soul, which Jesus defined as an incomparable good compared to the whole world. Just unemployment indicates that there is nothing safe in this world, as Jesus proclaimed in the beatitudes ".

Monsignor Bux, is there a risk of schism?

"The unity of the Church is the most precious asset to be preserved," says St. John Chrysostom, who preferred exile five times, in order to avoid it. In some places it is said that the rupture in the Catholic Church is already there, there is said to be the coexistence of two religions (together): the Church and the anti-church.

The point is not to pull the rope [as in a tug-of-war] too far. For example, to insist on the Synod Church, this contrasts with the nature of the Catholic Church which is hierarchical because it has a summit: the primacy of the pope, perpetual and visible principle and foundation of the unity of the Church, as states Vatican II.

The Catholic Church cannot be synodal, because the synod is an ecclesiastical institute, while only the Petrine primacy and the episcopate were established by Jesus.

This is why Paul VI created a consultative synod, while the council of all can be deliberative: bishops led by the Pope.

The synod can paralyze and even destroy the Church - the Orthodox Patriarch Bartholomew told me - and the Orthodox know something about it, because - as the Armenian Patriarch of Constantinople pointed out to me - Catholics have one Pope, the Orthodox have one for each church, so there is no one to say the last word. For this reason, the Catholic Church is not the Orthodox Church. I

I repeat: be careful to pull the rope too far in one direction - see the pachamama episode - because there will be those who pull it from the other, and then it will break.

The pope must be a father capable of keeping all his children inside, not of taking sides with one another, because then he would be a stepfather. The left-wing political Catholicism that permeates elites, curias and sacristies does not express a good part of the Catholics, practitioners and not; to impose it, is in contrast with the dialogue, theorized at full blast, and with the pluralism that in fact exists in the Church ”.

Was the Synod really all already written or expected?

"The Pied Piper of Hamelin seems to have returned to let out the mice that happily go after him, without understanding where they will end up. What does the archbishop of Taranto mean when he says that the difference between us and the Amazonian peoples lies in the fact that we accumulate things and they accumulate relationships with nature and people? The Church must take care to let man enter into relationship with God; he must also teach not to deify nature, but to guard it with care and make it progress. The Church must not indicate how the heavens go, but how to go to Heaven. A bishop must take care of this.

The proposal of an Amazon rite, then, again risks leading to the self-celebration of the community, forgetting that the liturgy is the saving act of Christ exercised in his name in the Church, and of which He alone guarantees its efficacy. We don't have it at our convenience. We do not build it according to our tastes and opinions. It is enough to insert ourselves in the forms and expressions of the almost universal Roman rite ...

The liturgy attests that God is among us, in our midst. Then, the liturgy is the place of ecclesial communion. No social project, no act of solidarity can reach such a degree of communion. Finally, the liturgy affirms that He is in us for the life of the world. Through the "Eucharistic form" of our existence, God's truth inscribes us in us , transfigures us, makes us free ”.

What do you think of celibacy for priests?

"Card. Ruini warned that giving up celibacy is a surrender to the spirit of the world. The debate on this theme reveals the this-worldly drift of churchmen. It has been forgotten that continence - which is the substance of celibacy, as of consecrated virginity - is the sign of the permanent press towards eternity. The priests of the Old Testament, in continuity with which on this point are those of the New, must abstain from conjugal relations because they anticipate in time the celestial condition where there is neither wife nor husband.

Of course, the 'high priest' Scalfari [!! The famous aheist Francis pal and founder/editor of Le Repubblica] has written that the Church must adapt to the world, and in this light it applauds the pope and the pastors who would carry this agenda forward. But the adaptation to the world is the betrayal of Christ who said, my kingdom is not of this world.

And the Church is precisely the beginning of the kingdom of Jesus Christ, because the world lives on words and actions that pass away, not on the word of Christ that does not pass away. The Church abandons humanity when it adapts to the world. The Church has been sent into the world because it is converted to Christ: it has no other reason to exist and fulfill its mission.

It is painful to hear priests, who confuse ministerial priesthood and baptismal dignity, or come to say that one can practice homosexuality and be a good Christian. If they were consistent, they should leave the ministry, give up their salary and look for another job. They have forgotten that they are [stewards] and not masters of the Church. If a company sees an official who works contrary to his goals, he would sack him.

Celibacy is not an ecclesiastical law, - the study of the French Jesuit Christian Cochini remains fundamental - but the form of life that the apostles, even those who were married, chose in imitation of Christ, who wanted to show that we must strive for eternity, where marriage no longer exists. Celibacy is a sweet command of Christ ”. Msgr Bux, can women become deacons?

"At the time of Jesus, Israel was surrounded by cults acted as priestesses, so he was not conditioned by machismo. Why did he not establish them in his Church? Because he made the Church his bride, while he instituted the virile priesthood, which is his generating organ, otherwise he would have a relationship against nature. As long as the diaconate is a grade of the sacrament of sacred order, the Church does not have the power to confer it on women.

The term deaconess existed in the East, but it was not an ordained ministry but a service for the administration of baptism to women. Also in this question, there is an attempt to adapt to the world. Equal dignity between man and woman is confused with the equality of functions. In the body the members have different functions but equal dignity, and the Church is the body of Christ, who is its head ".

Is church doctrine affected?

"The doctrine or teaching, the food which the faithful flock (whence comust be given which the faithful flock must be given toi be nourished, must be" safe "," healthy "and" pure ", writes the Apostle to Titus. Listening to bishops and priests in dialogue with the secularists, a friend of mine observed, there is this impression: logic 0, sense of reality 0, doctrine 0, confusion 10, alignment with the world 10 etc.

They do not announce the gospel of Jesus Christ to convert the mind and heart of men to God, but the "ecological conversion", although the Church has not received any mandate on the subject, has any competence, he scientists are very divided on the so-called changes climate. So they forget what they were sent to, just to get the attention of the big press, while the faithful remaining people are lost and emigrate. They do not graze the flock according to the heart of Christ.

Fr. Giussani says: "If Christianity is an announcement of the fact that the Mystery has incarnated in a man, the circumstance in which one takes a stand on this, in front of the whole world, is important for the very definition of the testimony".

Who are the viri probati?

"The attempt to clericalize the laity, although Vatican II has urged these to permeate temporal realities, bearing witness and doing mission in the family and in work. Moreover, some observers have asked themselves: if the goal in the Amazon is to value indigenous, even idolatrous, cultures, what are the sacraments and therefore priests, if we theorize that we must live the faith in a secular way, to which does the priesthood serve? In the Amazon, as in other parts of the world, one must evangelize and promote faith and prayer, thus vocations would arise ”.

Bruno Volpe


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Prayer; Theology
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Nicola Bux is a senior Vatican theologian, an expert on synods, consultor to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith who had been involved with Pope Benedict XVI's restoration of the Traditional Latin Mass in July of 2007.
1 posted on 11/13/2019 7:25:41 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Al Hitan; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; irishjuggler; Jaded; JoeFromSidney; ..

Ping


2 posted on 11/13/2019 7:30:24 PM PST by ebb tide (I am Christeros. I am Michael Del Bufalo. And I am now a racist.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Basilica is a house of the basilisk. A lizard/reptile house. Have you ever seen an arial photo of it? It is shaped like a snake, even has a forked tongue. The whole place is like illuminati disney land with pagan roman idols that have been married/adulterated with church names.


3 posted on 11/13/2019 7:37:44 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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To: rawcatslyentist
False etymology.

Etymology Online (LINK) Basilica is from Latin basilica "court of justice building," from Greek (stoa) basilike "royal (portal)," in Athens the portico of the archon basileus, the official who dispensed justice in Athens; from adjective of basileus "king".

In other words, it's not "house of basilisk" (reptile) but "house of basileus" (king).

Before I commented on an aerial photo of "it", I'd have to know which Basilica you're referring to. There are 1,751 Catholic basilicas in the world. Four of them (the "Major Basilicas") are in Rome.

So, which one? They are not identical in structure, although in general a "basilica" is built on the same plan as a Roman court of law.

4 posted on 11/13/2019 8:46:49 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("...Created in Christ Jesus for the good works that God has prepared in advance..." (Eph. 2:10))
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To: Mrs. Don-o

‘HA HA! that’s a great response to the idol...
theologically and otherwise


5 posted on 11/13/2019 10:11:28 PM PST by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not , born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Good article. The only issue he did not touch upon was that the Amazon has seen evangelization going on by the Evangelical Christians which was why that synod took place.


6 posted on 11/14/2019 2:28:49 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Basilica is a house of the basilisk. A lizard/reptile house.

That's just nutty. "Basilica" is a standard Roman design for large halls. Both "basilica" and "basilisk" come from "basileos," the Greek word for "ruler" or "emperor".

7 posted on 11/14/2019 4:48:51 AM PST by Campion ((marine dad))
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Since Francis holds traditionalists in contempt, I think they should expand this exorcism to include both Orthodox priests and Jewish rabbis. These latter two faiths both have strong traditions of exorcism, and their incorporation into the ritual would be a potent slap in the face to those who wish ecumenism between Christianity and paganism/atheism.

Francis would likely be livid, and correctly see it as an attack on his heterodoxy and heresies.


8 posted on 11/14/2019 6:58:34 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberalism is the belief everyone else should be in treatment for your disorder.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I think this is an excellent idea. I Tweet my bishop daily, I may pass it on to him!


9 posted on 11/14/2019 7:31:32 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("...Created in Christ Jesus for the good works that God has prepared in advance..." (Eph. 2:10))
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Unfortunately, according to another article that I read on FR, Cardinal Sarah would need Francis' permission to perform the exorcism. I can't believe that that would ever happen.

(I wish I could remember which thread that was.)

10 posted on 11/14/2019 8:41:13 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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That’s (gah!) surprising and not surprising at all. The name of one of Sarah’s books was “God or Nothing”. If he means it, I wonder if he has the stones to do it?


11 posted on 11/14/2019 9:13:11 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("...Created in Christ Jesus for the good works that God has prepared in advance..." (Eph. 2:10))
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