[Catholic Caucus] The worst kept secret is finally out!

non veni pacem ^ | October 15, 2019 | Mark Docherty

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[Catholic Caucus] The worst kept secret is finally out!

“Whoever has had, as I have happened several times, the luck of meeting him and speaking to him with the utmost cultural confidence, knows that Pope Francis (sic) conceives Christ as Jesus of Nazareth, man, not God incarnate. Once incarnated, Jesus ceases to be a God and becomes a man until his death on the cross. The proof that confirms this reality and creates a Church that is completely different from the others is proved by some episodes which deserve to be remembered. The first is what happens in the Garden of Gethsemane where Jesus goes after the Last Supper. The apostles who are a few meters from him hear him pray to God with words that were at one time reported by Simon Peter: “Lord – said Jesus – if you can remove this bitter chalice from me, please do it, but if you can’t or you don’t want me to drink it all the way ». He was arrested by Pontius Pilate’s guards just outside of that garden.

Another episode, also well known, occurs when Jesus is already crucified and once again repeats himself and is listened to by the apostles and by the women who are kneeling at the foot of the cross: «Lord, you have abandoned me».
When I happened to discuss these sentences, Pope Francis (sic) told me: “They are the demonstrable proof that Jesus of Nazareth, once he became a man, might have been a man of exceptional virtues, but he was not a God at all”.” HERE

The thing that really caught my attention about all this, besides the not-so-surprising part about an antipope being an arch-heretic, was Scalfari’s first sentence. Did you miss that? Let me clean it up for you:

“Whoever has had the luck of…speaking to him…knows that Pope Francis (sic) conceives Christ as Jesus of Nazareth, man, not God incarnate.”

Got that? Antipope Bergoglio denies the divinity of Jesus Christ, and everyone knows it. This claim is what makes Scalfari’s account so credible. In fact it almost seems like an attempt to diffuse the bombshell. “Hey, what I’m about to say sounds like breaking news, but guess what… everybody already knows!”

Not that you really even need to ask him about it.

Or maybe it’s just situational knee/hip dysplasia.

 

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Vatican communications official: Carved figure at Amazon synod not Virgin Mary

Vatican rep denies claims that alleged ‘pagan’ statue is the Virgin Mary

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Ping

A few photos are worth a few thousand words.

[Right Wing Assault]

Frank, so, after the man dies on the cross and then rises, is he a man again or is he God? When he was assumed into heaven, is it a human body going into heaven or does he turn into God on the way or when he gets there. If not, is Jesus, the man, is in heaven as a man? Is he the only human there or is everyone a human body. I'm confused. And who are the three entities in the Trinity? You know, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. When the man, the Son, was on earth, is there a second Son in the Trinity? Or is there a vacancy in the Trinity. Or should I say, "The Duet?"

[Sergio]

bkmk

[Right Wing Assault]

That "non-pagan" creature above the green paddle, with war paint on, that's Mary. She doesn't look much like the other people in Nazareth.

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That "non-pagan" creature above the green paddle, with war paint on, that's Mary.

If you had read the linked article, the Vatican denies the pagan idol was the Virgin Mary.

[Bayard]

I’ve said it to people before and I’ll say it again, if Jesus was not fully God and Fully Man. If it was only a man that died on the cross it has no significance than if any other man died on the cross.

The entire atoning value of the sacrifice is meaningless if it was not someone who within himself has two natures both Man and Divine. Loads of Church fathers would agree.

If he was not also God then redemption is impossible since only God makes a full atonement possible.

[grumpygresh]

“Once incarnated, Jesus ceases to be a God.”

Sometimes the littlest words say a lot too. “a God”

What is this? He denies the trinity, the Godhead?

How can Jesus give up his divine nature?

Pope F is “an anti-Christ”

[Right Wing Assault]

When told “many people have said” the woman is a figure of the Virgin Mary, Costa added “‘many have said,’ okay, as you like, but I have never heard that.”

If you had read the linked article, the Vatican denies the pagan idol was the Virgin Mary.

I saw it. If "many people" said it, maybe the people may know more about it than the Vatican.

[Amendment10]

In Matthew 4:10, Jesus teaches us to worship the Lord our God only, Matthew 14:33 showing us that Jesus’ disciples worshiped Jesus, the disciples not disobeying the First Commandment by doing so.

Colossians 2:9 compliments the Matthew passages by teaching us that the fulness of the Deity was in Jesus.

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I saw it. If "many people" said it, maybe the people may know more about it than the Vatican.

The whole charade is being put on by the Vatican, on Vatican grounds. They know what's going on.

This is a catholic caucus. Are you a practicing catholic?

[Amendment10]

fulness of the Deity was in Jesus -> fulness of the Deity IS in Jesus

[BlessedBeGod]

I saw it. If "many people" said it, maybe the people may know more about it than the Vatican.

The "indigenous people" who organized it said it wasn't the Virgin Mary -- that it was a fertility goddess. Unfortunately, I don't have a link.

[BlessedBeGod]

Here is a link to the Wikipedia article about the goddess. They call her "Pachamama:"

Pachamama

[ELS]

When he was assumed into heaven

Christ ascended into Heaven. Mary was assumed into Heaven.

[trebb]

He had full and complete power. He healed the sick, walked on water, turned water into wine, anything he wanted He did, was taken up in an instant to converse with Satan himself.
I consider Jesus, on Earth 100% Man and 100% God at same time...what kind of sacrifice would He be if He did not have the ability to save Himself, but decide to go willingly to the Cross as the perfect sacrifice?
If He was merely a mortal Man His sacrifice could have been done by killing an apostle. Our God stepped out of Heaven and onto Earth as the perfect sacrifice for all of our sins - that’s a heck of a sacrifice.

[Right Wing Assault]

Christ ascended into Heaven. Mary was assumed into Heaven.

Yes, thank you for the correction.