Therefore:
Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!
* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.
Be rooted in Christ!
The August 19 date refers solely to the adoption of the gaysbian agenda, NOT to the “Full Communion” agreement.
This life long Methodist wishes our departing brothers and sisters well. I do not envy them trying to be a voice of God and man at the same time. Something will have to give. I know what it will be......
Should of left along time ago, what’s taking them so long.
But I fear that God is not who they are traveling with.
My senior pastor has straight up told us that a schism will happen in 2020. Of course, my senior pastor of 20 years ago predicted that would happen in 2000.
At least these splitters won't get persecuted by President Beto...
Once a church goes gay it dies. Nobody is going to get out of bed on Sunday to get a sermon they can get from watching Netflix. The only people that will be going to church in any denomination in 30 years are the ones who still take their tenets and traditions seriously.
Satan never sleeps.
Billy Hester blames the failure of his movement on the foreign delegates. Sounds pretty racist and xenophobic to me.
Bkmrk.
If the last UMC general conference had been just the north American UMC congregations the LGBT decision would have gone the other way.
There are now more UMC Methodists outside North America, in Asia and Africa than there are left in North America, and those in Asia and Africa include more traditionalists than the North Americans. The Asian and African UMC votes added to the remaining north American traditionalists made the vote at general conference come out the way it did. That is why it will be the Liberal churches in North American trying to exit the UMC than the other way around. There will be more Liberal churches that want to exit than will actually exit, because financially some of them will lose their property and cannot afford that. The largest Liberal churches that want to exit will have enough finances to do it, once they cut off their large contributions to the national UMC bodies.
Question for Methodists? How did “united” get into the name United Methodist, and, if there is schism, would the denomination prefer to keep that name or just be “Methodist”, or what?
UMC statement on gun control: 8. For United Methodist congregations to advocate at the local and national level for laws that prevent or reduce gun violence. Some of those measures include: • Universal background checks on all gun purchases • Ratification of the Arms Trade Treaty • Ensuring all guns are sold through licensed gun retailers • Prohibiting all individuals convicted of violent crimes from purchasing a gun for a fixed time period • Prohibiting all individuals under restraining order due to threat of violence from purchasing a gun • Prohibiting persons with serious mental illness, who pose a danger to themselves and their communities, from purchasing a gun • Ensuring greater access to services for those suffering from mental illness • Establishing a minimum age of 21 years for a gun purchase or possession • Banning large-capacity ammunition magazines and weapons designed to fire multiple rounds each time the trigger is pulled • Promoting new technologies to aid law-enforcement agencies to trace crime guns and promote public safety.
ADOPTED 2016
See Social Principles, ¶ 162.
From The Book of Resolutions of The United Methodist Church - 2016. Copyright © 2016 by The United Methodist Publishing House. Used by permission.
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“Liberal Congregations in Five States Move towards Leaving UMC”
Might I recommend to them the church of Satan? They are practically there with their theology already.
It really doesn’t matter. Leftist posers as United Methodists can still violate Church doctrine with virtual impunity. Ink on paper means nothing. A church’s real doctrinal standard is what it allows with impunity.
Regardless, the UMC has already relented on the diabolical, unbiblical practice of ordaining women as pastors. As long as this policy remains in place, the denomination is lost.
These congregations are leaving with their properties intact, and without any arguing or lawsuits from the UMC. There is no “costly stand” here for their walking away....very different than Episcopal, Presbyterian, Lutheran or other conservative congregations leaving those mainline denominations.