Posted on 08/27/2019 1:58:22 PM PDT by ebb tide
Although it is now frequently claimed that the traditional Latin Mass (TLM) was never abrogated (totally abolished) following the Second Vatican Council, this position is squarely at odds not only with the lived experience of several generations of Catholics, but with the rapid and near total disappearance of the TLM within a brief period of time.
For many years after 1970, there was considerable confusion about the legal and sacramental status of the TLM following the publication of the new Missale Romanum of 1970. Throughout that time period, Pope Paul VI granted multiple permissions to specific people (like Padre Pio and St. Josemaría Escrivá), dioceses, and even nations (the U.K.) to continue to use the TLM despite the universal transition to the new missal.
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So where is the OT description of John 1: 29-36?
The issue is you said He did not make an absolute statement.
You said no one recognized Him without instruction.
I'd think JtB knew the OT.
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It is most definitely the issue. What context did you provide for my original statement that would indicate WHAT I said "should be easy?"
The issue is you said He did not make an absolute statement.
It is true I said it was not an absolute statement, which should be obvious to anyone who doesn't subscribe to sixteenth century heresies.
I think JtB knew the OT, too.
So where in the OT does it say “‘He upon whom you see the Spirit descending and remaining upon Him, this is the One who baptizes in the Holy Spirit.’”
Remember the scene of the heavenly Ark of the Covenant?
That was her.
On one hand, we’re accused of every man being his own pope and interpreting Scripture ala YOPIOS, and now we’re being accused of being spoon fed Scripture.
IOW, Catholics and Catholicism does not trust the individual enough to make their own decisions regarding Scritpure.
But then the question arises....
How do we know we can trust those who are supposed to be *experts*?
Because men who are spiritual dead cannot perceive spiritual truths, any more than a blind man can perceive light.
They don't have the capability to do it.
Mary is not the Ark.
Jesus is.
It’s in the body of Jesus that the fullness of the deity dwells.
Could they read? Because the other poster claimed Jesus' life and ministry was plain to see in the OT.
You guys sure give that "spiritual blindness/lead by the spirit" thing a real workout. I guess there's not much left for you when you don't have history, unity, or a cohesive theology working for you.
As I said before, whatever you believe it is not Christianity.
We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. No, we declare God’s wisdom, a mystery that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. However, as it is written:“What no eye has seen,what no ear has heard,and what no human mind has conceived”—the things God has prepared for those who love him—these are the things God has revealed to us by his Spirit.
The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. For who knows a person’s thoughts except their own spirit within them? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. What we have received is not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us. This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.
The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit. The person with the Spirit makes judgments about all things, but such a person is not subject to merely human judgments, for, “Who has known the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.
How supercilious.
I understand you just fine; what I don’t do is agree with you, and history and Scripture is on MY side.
Scripture on your side?? Comical. Dude, you don’t even accept the clear promise of Christ.
If the “promise” is so “clear,” why does the Bible devote so much real estate to warning us against sin? After all, sin won’t matter, right? All you have to do is believe!
Actually, the Bible speaks more about money than sin.
Whom God loves He chastens. He chastens His children. Having the Righteousness of Christ imputed to me did not remove my sin nature, so my Father in Heaven, because He has His Holy Spirit seal upon my spirit, chastens me when I behave in an un family manner. When I confess to Him He is faithful and just to forgive and fellowship is re=established in the family I can never be removed from, BY THE PROMISE OF GOD not some religious Org.
If you live through the catastrophes caused by the Rapture removal of millions of dead/resurrected and alive at the time born again believers, don't accept the Mark of The Beast when commanded to you, even if accompanied by great signs and lying wonders. This ain't Fatima, it is much worse deception coming.
And this little gem of a comment proves that my statements are not "ad hominems", but accurate descriptions. I've expressed NO disrespect for the Body of Christ...NONE....any such is solely a figment of your warped imagination.
"I'll pray for you."
Good. That's the first Christian sentiment you've expressed since I've been reading your little diatribes. And I'll pray for you. Bye!
Sure you have. Every time you've received Him on the hoof and in the paws.
Have you even heard of a communion paten? That's the plate placed under the communicant's chin to catch any chance part of Christ's Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity.
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