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Bishop Elect of the ELCA Says Hell Is Empty
Exposing The ELCA ^ | 7/16/2019

Posted on 07/17/2019 7:35:07 AM PDT by Gamecock

Paul Egensteiner, Bishop Elect of the Metropolitan New York Synod (ELCA), recently attended a gay pride parade and shared a heretical message. While giving people "...thumbs up or a handshake or high five or simply a greeting of 'Happy Pride!'" Bishop Elect Egensteiner tells of a specific encounter he had with a young man who asked him "You mean I'm not going to hell?” The ELCA bishop writes:

"I was stunned. 'No,' I said. (Along with Bishop Eaton, I believe there is a hell but it is empty, by the grace of the Father and the love of Jesus.) 'God loves you!' He held my hand a little longer and then said, 'Come here. Give me a hug' As I did so, he repeated his initial question, 'So I’m not going to hell, right?' 'No!' I repeated, maybe a little more emphatically this time. 'God LOVES you!'” (See here)

This statement about hell is wrong on many so many levels.

- It is heretical to believe hell is empty. The Bible clearly speaks of people in hell and warns about going there. (See here) Teaching that hell is empty is universalism, a false teaching that all people will be saved. It is a dangerous belief that risks the eternal life of those who believe it. That is what this Evangelical Lutheran Church in America bishop elect (and many in the ELCA) believes. It is a teaching from hell.

- In this exchange between the young man and the ELCA bishop elect, a false assurance of salvation was given. Nothing was said about faith in Christ, repentance, grace by faith for those who believe, fleeing from sin, forgiveness, God's Word or lovingly helping this man know the healing that God can provide him. Satan could not have done better.

This is a grave teaching of the apostate Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. Shame on the ELCA for not preaching that Hell is real, people will be in hell and that salvation is available to all by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.

- And then you have ELCA bishops encouraging sinful behavior that separates people from the Lord.

ELCA members, you are hurting people and the Lord God Almighty by supporting this denomination.


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1 posted on 07/17/2019 7:35:07 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

Hell has no borders, Heaven does. Think about it.


2 posted on 07/17/2019 7:37:26 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Gamecock

If Hell is empty, why pray for people’s souls? Why evangelize?

Catholics call such a notion (in addition to heresy), the sin of presumption: “If God loves everyone...”


3 posted on 07/17/2019 7:38:00 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Gamecock

Sorry. I meant to say: Hell has no fence or gate, Heaven does.


4 posted on 07/17/2019 7:38:30 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Gamecock

ELCA should be forced to stop using Luther’s name. Their creapy organizations (rapugee settlement for example) use the name “Lutherans” when doing bad things makes it seems like all Lutherans are that way, when in fact there are still REAL Lutheran Churches like the Missouri Synod Lutheran Church who have nothing to do with these evil ELCA types.


5 posted on 07/17/2019 7:41:54 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: Gamecock

The streets of Hell are paved with the skulls of bishops.


6 posted on 07/17/2019 7:42:54 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: Gamecock

The concept of a Hell occupied with the souls of the unrepentant is not compatible with scripture.

It is compatible with Dante’s Inferno.


7 posted on 07/17/2019 7:42:55 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Gamecock

“I believe there is a hell but it is empty.”

This is actually a fascinating cope. He knows that denying the existence of hell is an untenable position, so he creates a dodge to cope with the dissonance between Scripture and his earthly desire to justify sticking things in places they aren’t supposed to go. They never have to deal with anything beyond this simple formulation of “God is love, therefore, nobody goes to hell.”


8 posted on 07/17/2019 7:43:43 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Fact: Dogs can extract more info from smelling a pile of $h!t than humans can from viewing CNN)
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To: rigelkentaurus

Agree, and also think they have no right to claim they are “evangelical”!


9 posted on 07/17/2019 7:44:42 AM PDT by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement!)
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To: Gamecock

The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bad bishops.


10 posted on 07/17/2019 7:45:33 AM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: Gamecock

Hell is empty because they are all in Congress.

Or like the Preacher’s kid said to the Deacon’s kid. “My Dad owns Hell.” What? “He said the Deacons gave it to him last night.”


11 posted on 07/17/2019 7:47:39 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Gamecock

I’m surprised he doesn’t think it’s full of conservatives.


12 posted on 07/17/2019 7:47:43 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Gamecock

Oh how low churches have descended.

And these same clowns would defend Islam to the fullest.

And they wonder why their attendance is dropping like a progressive lib arts professor’s IQ.


13 posted on 07/17/2019 7:47:57 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Gamecock

Hell is empty because they are all in Congress.

Or like the Preacher’s kid said to the Deacon’s kid. “My Dad owns Hell.” What? “He said the Deacons gave it to him last night.”


14 posted on 07/17/2019 7:49:24 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Gamecock

Happy pride, gay is good, there is no hell, and other delusions.

Gay bishops and pastors distort Christianity so it conforms to their life style. Instead, they should make their life style conform to Christianity.


15 posted on 07/17/2019 7:49:36 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: SkyDancer

“Hell has no borders, Heaven does. Think about it.”

Road to HELL has no speed limit, no stop signs and requires no SELF CONTROL !!


16 posted on 07/17/2019 7:53:11 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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To: litehaus
Road to HELL has no speed limit, no stop signs and requires no SELF CONTROL !!

It ain't no upwardly mobile freeway.

17 posted on 07/17/2019 7:54:18 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Hell has increased its borders


18 posted on 07/17/2019 8:04:15 AM PDT by easternsky
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To: Yo-Yo
What Did Jesus Teach about Hell?
19 posted on 07/17/2019 8:06:23 AM PDT by Gamecock (In church today, we so often find we meet only the same old world, not Christ and His Kingdom. AS)
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To: dangus

Then why go to church if I can sleep on Sunday morning!

No need for spiritual growth. No need for worship. No need to confess and hear our forgiveness.


20 posted on 07/17/2019 8:08:48 AM PDT by Gamecock (In church today, we so often find we meet only the same old world, not Christ and His Kingdom. AS)
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