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Francis in his own words: There was no 'multiplication' of loaves: it was just 'sharing'.
Rorate Caeli ^
| June 25, 2019
| New Catholic
Posted on 06/25/2019 3:55:18 PM PDT by ebb tide
Francis in his own words: There was no 'multiplication' of loaves: it was just 'sharing'.
In his own words:
Surprisingly, the account of the multiplication of the loaves does not mention the multiplication itself. On the contrary, the words that stand out are: break, give and distribute (cf. Lk 9:16). In effect, the emphasis is not on the multiplication but the act of sharing. This is important. Jesus does not perform a magic trick; he does not change five loaves into five thousand and then to announce: There! Distribute them! No. Jesus first prays, then blesses the five loaves and begins to break them, trusting in the Father. And those five loaves never run out. This is no magic trick; it is an act of trust in God and his providence.
Francis
Rome, June 23, 2019
On the other hand:
Having reached this point, Venerable Brethren, we have sufficient material in hand to enable us to see the relations which Modernists establish between faith and science, including history also under the name of science. And in the first place it is to be held that the object of the one is quite extraneous to and separate from the object of the other. For faith occupies itself solely with something which science declares to be unknowable for it. Hence each has a separate field assigned to it: science is entirely concerned with the reality of phenomena, into which faith does not enter at all; faith on the contrary concerns itself with the divine reality which is entirely unknown to science. Thus the conclusion is reached that there can never be any dissension between faith and science, for if each keeps on its own ground they can never meet and therefore never be in contradiction. And if it be objected that in the visible world there are some things which appertain to faith, such as the human life of Christ, the Modernists reply by denying this. For though such things come within the category of phenomena, still in as far as they are lived by faith and in the way already described have been by faith transfigured and disfigured, they have been removed from the world of sense and translated to become material for the divine. Hence should it be further asked whether Christ has wrought real miracles, and made real prophecies, whether He rose truly from the dead and ascended into heaven, the answer of agnostic science will be in the negative and the answer of faith in the affirmative - yet there will not be, on that account, any conflict between them. For it will be denied by the philosopher as philosopher, speaking to philosophers and considering Christ only in His historical reality; and it will be affirmed by the speaker, speaking to believers and considering the life of Christ as lived again by the faith and in the faith.
Saint Pius X
Pascendi
September 8, 1907
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: 18thdistrict; antipope; conorlamb; francischurch; heresy; homosexualagenda; pennsylvania; popefrancis; ricksaccone; romancatholicism
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To: dsc
Do you believe the scriptures or not? It is very clear that the loaves and fishes fed over 5000 people and there were lots of leftovers.
Matthew 14:6-22 (NIV)
6 On Herods birthday the daughter of Herodias danced for the guests and pleased Herod so much 7 that he promised with an oath to give her whatever she asked. 8 Prompted by her mother, she said, Give me here on a platter the head of John the Baptist. 9 The king was distressed, but because of his oaths and his dinner guests, he ordered that her request be granted 10 and had John beheaded in the prison. 11 His head was brought in on a platter and given to the girl, who carried it to her mother. 12 Johns disciples came and took his body and buried it. Then they went and told Jesus.
Jesus Feeds the Five Thousand
13 When Jesus heard what had happened, he withdrew by boat privately to a solitary place. Hearing of this, the crowds followed him on foot from the towns. 14 When Jesus landed and saw a large crowd, he had compassion on them and healed their sick.
15 As evening approached, the disciples came to him and said, This is a remote place, and its already getting late. Send the crowds away, so they can go to the villages and buy themselves some food.
16 Jesus replied, They do not need to go away. You give them something to eat.
17 We have here only five loaves of bread and two fish, they answered.
18 Bring them here to me, he said. 19 And he directed the people to sit down on the grass. Taking the five loaves and the two fish and looking up to heaven, he gave thanks and broke the loaves. Then he gave them to the disciples, and the disciples gave them to the people. 20 They all ate and were satisfied, and the disciples picked up twelve basketfuls of broken pieces that were left over. 21 The number of those who ate was about five thousand men, besides women and children.
Mark 6:41 New International Version (NIV)
41 Taking the five loaves and the two fish and looking up to heaven, he gave thanks and broke the loaves. Then he gave them to his disciples to distribute to the people. He also divided the two fish among them all.
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:32:20 PM PDT
by
erkelly
To: ebb tide
The AntiPope. Get outta here, Pops.
To: ebb tide
IOW, Multiplication of Loaves sounds too much like Capitalism.
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:33:15 PM PDT
by
TADSLOS
(You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
To: Roman_War_Criminal
You are correct, RWC.
The Bible is the firewall that prevents one from believing false doctrine. It is an ESSENTIAL part of putting on the whole armor of God.
Slothfulness has its consequences.
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:33:22 PM PDT
by
MichaelCorleone
(Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
To: piusv
He did. He did it in 2014.
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:38:33 PM PDT
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome)
To: ebb tide
Has Il Papa stated where the manna and quail came from in the desert (Exodus)?
5.56mm
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:38:49 PM PDT
by
M Kehoe
(DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
To: Roman_War_Criminal
"21 The number of those who ate was about five thousand men, besides women and children."Women and children eat free?
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:39:51 PM PDT
by
Ingtar
To: M Kehoe
Let me guess: Chic fil a.
5.56mm
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:40:09 PM PDT
by
M Kehoe
(DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
To: EnquiringMind
In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church, there will sit Peter the Roman, who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations, and when these things are finished, the city of seven hills [i.e. Rome] will be destroyed, and the dreadful judge will judge his people. The End.
Just sayin’.
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:43:18 PM PDT
by
Ingtar
To: MichaelCorleone
Amen Bro!
SMH at why folks continue to give this apostate any credence whatsoever!
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:43:53 PM PDT
by
Roman_War_Criminal
(Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
To: BenLurkin
Ann Barnhardt’s characterization would be “He doesn’t believe any of that BS”.
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:44:37 PM PDT
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: All
And Jesus just woke Lazarus from his afternoon nap.
/s
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:45:00 PM PDT
by
BipolarBob
(I heard a joke the other day that the CNN poll showed . . . No that was it. The CNN poll.)
To: Ingtar
Everybody ate for free. They didn’t count the women and children who ate.
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:45:41 PM PDT
by
Roman_War_Criminal
(Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
To: ebb tide
I’ve heard this nonsense before. There is nothing new about it. We know the truth. And everything that comes out any pope or priests mouth is not dogma.
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:48:29 PM PDT
by
RichardMoore
(Without the protection of life all other right are void, dump TV and follow a plant based diet)
To: ebb tide
The feeding of the five thousand, not including women and children, was understood by the disciples as a miracle. For two thousand years, the church catholic has understood this event as a miracle. This pope deliberately abuses God’s Word to promote his socialist agenda.
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:49:14 PM PDT
by
Ullus
(The Miracle of the Feeding of the FIVE thousand.)
To: erkelly
They think Christ employed a psychology trick, got people feeling guilty so they all shared. Except Christ fed 4000 people the same way at another time. Christ himself said to his disciples at one point...do you remember when the 5 thousand were fed and again remember when the 4 thousand fed?(he was speaking of how they as a group had never lacked for anything). I think Christ fed them the way Israel was fed by the Father in the Wilderness. No magic tricks...just the grace and the power of God! The Pope denies that there is real power in Christianity. The Count down begins....
To: Ingtar
The Anti-Christ will have his day no doubt...
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posted on
06/25/2019 4:59:04 PM PDT
by
Roman_War_Criminal
(Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
To: Roman_War_Criminal
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posted on
06/25/2019 5:00:06 PM PDT
by
Roman_War_Criminal
(Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
To: ebb tide
I believe he is the False Prophet mention in the Book of Revelation.
To: ifinnegan
But, thats not how it really happened!
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