Jews regard “Messianic Jews” (who are not Jews in any sense of the word) as a) a fraud; and b) hostile, aggressive attempts at conversion through deceit.
RE: aggressive attempts at conversion through deceit.
I’m trying to understand the words “aggressive” and “deceit”.
Can you be more specific?
I disagree.
While this is true for most who call themselves Messianic Jews, it is not true for all. I sometimes have a good time asking proselytizing Messianic Jews what they have to say about this week's Torah portion. Most give me a look that indicates they aren't even aware there is such a thing. (And lets face it. Many JINOs would have the same reaction.)
But some years ago one of them answered me quite precisely. This was a woman I met at the Ein Gedi Resort near the Dead Sea. She talked about Shabbat and other things much the way I might, but she also believed that Mathew, Mark, Luke, and John were fundamentally accurate. Very interesting girl.
ML/NJ
“Jews regard “Messianic Jews” (who are not Jews in any sense of the word)”
That doesn’t make sense.
If your mother is Jewish, you’re Jewish. If you’re a Messianic Jew with a Jewish mother, you’re JEWISH. That’s - at least - one sense of the “word” JEWISH.
“who are not Jews in any sense of the word”
Hmm. If their mother is a Jew, aren’t they a Jew in one very important sense of the word?
We have all sorts of “Jews” who are not Jews - by YOUR arguments - in America.
I took Hebrew class at a secular university with many “Jews” who were flatly ATHEISTS. Full Stop.
Israel also has many atheist “Jews” in its population and government.
I do not see anyone like you exposing all those various poseurs. I therefore regard you as a hypocrite.
It is you who are the aggressive and hostile one.
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Messianics are not “Jews,” but they definitely are Israel.
Jews are followers of Rabbis and the Talmud, but not followers of Tanakh.