Posted on 06/01/2019 4:28:45 PM PDT by Morgana
hVe you toured the vatican? the tour guide was quite impressed with the amount of accumulated wealth. The great commission was not to go and amass all the wealth you can. God is not impressed with wealth. He desires souls.
In my opinion, these beautiful pieces of art is not about amassing financial wealth. These things represent the beauty of the Faith, and as such are being handed down to future generations. I would guess that you would see that as bragging too.
GREAT! And here I'm ready to book a flight. I'll be sure to tell them not to sit me next to any demons or obnoxious children.
Seriously, one would think a preacher would want to confront the other side. The Lord knows that I have my faults, but I can hardly wait to hear the response to this one at the Great Judgement.
Whether it's a hit job or not, this pastor is not above reproached as is commanded in scripture. Pastors do not have to take a vow of poverty nor is it wrong for them to profit from their service and hard work. There is nothing wrong with a "wealthy" pastor who God has chosen to bless. There is something wrong, however, when they start to build bigger barns on the expense of others.
In the light of the extermination of all those Rome deemed to be heretics (like me) required of Catholic rulers, and (among other aspects) her fundamental opposition to religious freedom, then it was for good reason that so much of colonial America opposed Catholics settling in America.
One manifestation of this was this reaction: The Quebec Act elicited common fears of Catholicism; it was “dangerous in an extreme degree to the Protestant religion, and to the civil rights and liberties of all America,” according to the Suffolk Resolves on September 18, 1774. Americans feared that the pope would order an invasion from Quebec to impose Catholicism on them.
That fear had even deeper roots from their memories of England. Most immediately, the colonists referred to the so-called Glorious Revolution of 1688, when the Catholic king James II was deposed after trying to institute religious freedom for Protestant dissenters (Protestants who were not Anglicans), Catholics, and Quakers. - http://www.ncregister.com/blog/stephaniemann/why-colonial-america-was-so-afraid-of-catholic-quebec
As late as 1864, Pope Pius IX stated, 78. “[It is error to believe that] Hence it has been wisely decided by law, in some Catholic countries, that persons coming to reside therein shall enjoy the public exercise of their own peculiar worship.” -- Allocution "Acerbissimum," Sept. 27, 1852. Pope Pius IX, The Syllabus (of Errors), Issued in 1864, Section X (http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius09/p9syll.htm)
In 1899, Pope Leo XIII addressed Testem benevolentiae nostrae to Cardinal James Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore, attacking as a heresy what he called Americanism (and indirectly, anticlericalism in France at the time), admonishing the American Church to guard against certain American values, including pluralism and freedom of the press, which underminined the doctrine and authority of the Roman Church (and he states, "she is rightly called the Roman Church, for "where Peter is, there is the church").
Related: What Should Catholics Think About Revolution? https://catholicexchange.com/121409
And even now, despite evangelicals being by far the most conservative major religious movement in the West - in contrast to Catholics - we have this dream,
"....Constitutions can be changed, and non-Catholic sects may decline to such a point that the political proscription [ban] of them may become feasible and expedient. What protection would they have against a Catholic state? What protection would they then have against a Catholic State? The latter could logically tolerate only such religious activities as were confined to the members of the dissenting group. It could not permit them to carry on general propaganda nor accord their organization certain privileges that had formerly been extended to all religious corporations, for example, exemption from taxation. [But] the danger of religious intolerance toward non-Catholics in the United States is so improbable and so far in the future that it should not occupy their time or attention." — The State and the Church (1922), pp.38,39, by Monsignor (and professor) John Augustine Ryan (1869–1945), imprimatur of Cardinal Hayes (http://maritain.nd.edu/jmc/etext/sac002.htm).
He has a lot of money. His ministry, he says, does much with that money.
I agree, he could do much more than he has, but he seemed pretty transparent to me in the interview.
It seems the normal for these tv evangelists is to pilfer and steal from people, then commit adultery etc.
Copeland has been pretty clean thru the years....
Contrast with Joel Osteen. I don’t think he ever, and I mean ever used the word Jesus in his sermons or books. Not once...have I heard him use the word. I might be wrong...
I've personally never had anything against him, but this interview which caught him while he was living his private life really surprised me. I don't think I can look at him the same way anymore.
Kenneth Copeland, the self proclaimed Billionaire and prosperity preacher was hit hard by an impromptu Inside Edition interview (ft. Lisa Guererro) and it's absolute jokes. I love making videos on these Televangelist preachers, I don't know why they are just so funny to me they are like real life superhero movie villains. | Billionaire Preacher Ambushed With Surprise Interview | Leon Lush | Published on Jun 1, 2019
I question his keeping wealth instead of investing it in the kingdom in the same way
I question the Vatican keeping wealth instead of investing it in the kingdom.***
My thoughts exactly
I could never watch/listen to this guy
Didn’t feel uplifting in any way
May God touch him in a miraculous intervention by the Holy Spirit
Same for the Pope
The phrase “filthy lucre’s sake” popped into my mind after reading this article for some reason. Don’t know why.../sarc
It's not really a myth at all. Some interesting info:
How Much Wealth Does the Vatican Control?
The Vatican Billions - Two thousands Years of Wealth Accumulation
I think we can all pretty much tell the difference between being comfortable and being ostentatious. When God blesses a person with wealth I'm pretty sure it is so that those in genuine need can be helped and God is glorified. It just looks bad, I think, for those who are called to be ministers of the gospel to store up for themselves treasures on earth instead of treasures in heaven.
I was thinking the same things. Jesus had no problem eating with crowds and being within the presence of the demonically possessed. I'm sure many ministers travel to other areas and have to use commercial airlines. They don't seem to have any problems with strangers while flying and many see it as an excellent witnessing opportunity. I don't buy Copeland's excuses for why he must own numerous multi-million dollar planes and the expense that goes along with owning them. I'd think even chartering a private plane would be more cost effective if commercial travel is unavailable. I don't know Copeland's heart but I can observe that nobody needs nearly a billion dollars in personal wealth to preach the gospel!
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