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[Catholic Caucus] Why Is Francis So Afraid of the Roman Rite?
Gloria TV ^ | February 15, 2019 | Gloria TV

Posted on 02/15/2019 8:33:18 PM PST by ebb tide

Why Is Francis So Afraid of the Roman Rite?

During a February 14 audience for the participants in the plenary of the Liturgy Congregation, Pope Francis read a text about the liturgical development of the past fifty years which sounded like a parody compared to what really happened.

Francis claimed that in the 1960s the Church's "praying tradition" needed "renewed expressions, without losing anything of its millennial wealth." However, as a result of the changes, the "millennial wealth" was lost, and the "renewed expressions" turned out to be a flop.

As if he wanted to make fun about the disaster, Francis called to continue this journey "with wise constancy".

Using a shaky 19th century Lebensphilosophie, he went on claiming that the liturgy is "life that forms", not an "idea to be learned", or that "reality is more important than the idea". But life forms through ideas, and behind the liturgy are God's life, ideas and reality, not ours.

Francis called the liturgy "the epiphany of ecclesial communion". Something like that may be true for a party meeting but Catholic liturgy is the epiphany of God, not of men.

His strongest fears are toward the millennial Roman Liturgy against which he launched a furious attack:

"When we look back to nostalgic past tendencies or wish to impose them again, there is the risk of placing the part before the whole, the 'I' before the People of God, the abstract before the concrete, ideology before communion and, fundamentally, the worldly before the spiritual."

It is a fact that the future belongs to the Old Rite families, that nostalgia is a phenomenon among those who - like Francis - idealize a failed reform, and that the Novus Ordo is "imposed" on the faithful while the Roman Rite is chosen freely.

Thus, Francis puts a partial, narrow-minded "reform" in an egocentric way before the good of the Church, his abstract liturgical ideas before the faithful, liberal ideology before truth, and fashions before the eternity of the Spirit.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Worship
KEYWORDS: francischurch; novusordor; tlm; vcii
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1 posted on 02/15/2019 8:33:19 PM PST by ebb tide
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"When we look back to nostalgic past tendencies or wish to impose them again, there is the risk of placing the part before the whole, the 'I' before the People of God, the abstract before the concrete, ideology before communion and, fundamentally, the worldly before the spiritual."Pope Francis
2 posted on 02/15/2019 8:37:11 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

Why Is Francis So Afraid of the Roman Rite?

Because the Devil hates Latin.

3 posted on 02/15/2019 8:42:33 PM PST by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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To: ebb tide

Francis continuing destructive confusing pontificating on temporal worldly social behavior has nothing to do with and avoids articles of faith. Let alone refusing to question and expound on the profound differences with the claims made by Islam and its followers simply because of its assertion of being monotheistic and honoring it. Is leading to a serious fracture within Christianity and The Roman Rite .


4 posted on 02/15/2019 10:39:19 PM PST by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record)
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To: ebb tide

Because he is a heretic?


5 posted on 02/15/2019 10:53:16 PM PST by jtal (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle ....)
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To: ebb tide

That’s not a picture of the Roman Rite. The Roman Rite does not have a table in front of the altar. Looks more like a picture of the Insult Mass.


6 posted on 02/16/2019 2:57:13 AM PST by G. W. McLintock
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To: G. W. McLintock
The Roman Rite does not have a table in front of the altar. Looks more like a picture of the Insult Mass.

My morning eyes did not notice that. Good catch.

7 posted on 02/16/2019 5:11:29 AM PST by piusv
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To: G. W. McLintock
Then again, after thinking that through, I'm not sure what you are saying now.

I would say that the Latin Mass is being offered in the picture. However, it is probably being done in the same church where a Novus Ordo "mass" is being "celebrated".

Is this what you mean?

8 posted on 02/16/2019 5:29:04 AM PST by piusv
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To: piusv

We have a traditional priest that has a table off to the right holding the water,wine,bowl and towel needed for the consecration...

...and that’s exactly as I remember as a pre- Vatican II altar boy.

Now as far as Francis’ dislike of the Latin mass goes...

...well he’s a homo-communist, don’t make it harder than it is


9 posted on 02/16/2019 5:36:08 AM PST by exPBRrat (.)
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To: exPBRrat

I don’t think that is what the other poster is referring to...hopefully he’ll post again to clarify.


10 posted on 02/16/2019 5:44:43 AM PST by piusv
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To: BlessedBeGod

Latin is a tough language.


11 posted on 02/16/2019 5:59:11 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: G. W. McLintock

That’s not a picture of the Roman Rite. The Roman Rite does not have a table in front of the altar. Looks more like a picture of the Insult Mass.
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Last Sunday I drove to a parish church in Pennsylvania 75 miles from my home to attend a Tridentine Latin High Mass. There were nine altar boys and a seminarian assisting the priest. The entire Mass was in Latin, and Holy Communion was received kneeling at the altar rail. The table however was immovable, and it was a minor irritation at an otherwise beautifully conducted High Mass.


12 posted on 02/16/2019 8:08:32 AM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Civilization is held together by the hangman's noose.)
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To: ebb tide

The short answer: The Old Roman Rite was supposed to be destroyed by the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965). It wasn’t, and it has been tenaciously adhered to and venerated by the remnant of Traditionalists who comprise the Tridentine Latin Mass communities that sprang up around the world following the VC-II debacle. Frankie is a modernist and a heretic, and consequently he despises this remnant of the True Faith.


13 posted on 02/16/2019 5:06:28 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Civilization is held together by the hangman's noose.)
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