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IS OPEN BORDERS THE BIBLICAL STANCE?
Frontpage Mag ^ | 11/30/2018 | Danusha V. Goska

Posted on 11/30/2018 7:13:15 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Imagine this: You are a parent, and a homeowner. Your home is modest. You worked ceaselessly, at a job full of frustrations, humiliations and disappointments, frittering away the best years of your life, to put your home together. You love the color scheme. You love the carpets. You love the couch, even though you may have bought it at the Salvation Army. You like your neighbors.

After years of walking on eggshells and negotiations, you've hammered out a modus vivendi with the folks next door and in back. You love your pets, with a walk schedule worked out where you take them to the park at the right times.

Your kid is chronically ill, and needs expensive medication daily. Because of some fluke in the insurance, you have to pay for those meds out of pocket.

One night unexpectedly, you hear a rasping noise. Someone is using a file to jimmy your lock and penetrate your home. You hear more voices. They're coming in. You’re now victim to a home invasion. You've heard about this in the news.

Gangs are breaking into homes. Stealing whatever drugs are on the premises, eating all the food, throwing trash around, disrupting lives.

Your child needs drugs every day. These home invaders may steal the drugs, leaving your kid without necessary medication.

You have a gun in your nightstand. Do you use it? Me?  

This imaginary scenario helps me personally to understand why some can disagree so vehemently about borders.

On Sunday, November 25, 2018, US border agents used tear gas to hold back an on-rush of protesting asylum seekers from Central America. NPR called this event a Rorschach test. Some see the border guards as protecting the US and the rule of law, and using non-lethal methods to do so, while others view it differently.

On my Facebook (FB) page, one poster said that anyone who doesn't support open borders “has no conscience” and is “unaware of the Bible.” One FB friend accused me of being an "evil virus" because I don't support open borders. Another, an influential Catholic author, is accusing anyone who doesn't support open borders of being “satanic”. Another shared a popular meme declaring, "Real Christians would be waiting for the caravan with food, water, clothing, and offering any help needed."

I've been trying to talk to those calling me "satanic" and a "virus." I try to communicate the following….

Some of us see America as our home. We assess America as valuable. We realize how very much hard work went into creating the country we've been blessed with. America, the America we cherish, didn't just spring up overnight. America took long, hard work, and constant maintenance. We don't take America for granted. We realize that like any human creation, America could be destroyed by human hands. We are not xenophobes. We value immigrants who arrive legally, learn English, and respect and support American institutions before attempting to benefit from those institutions.

We see a national border as a necessity. We support a porous border. We want people, commerce, and ideas to flow in and out. We support laws to regulate this flow. We appreciate border patrol as serving that regulation. We assess persons attempting to violate our laws, not as heroes, but as criminals, and we support border patrol doing whatever is necessary to enforce the very same laws we ourselves have had to adhere to when we crossed international borders.  

We know that there are people in the world much worse off than we are. That's why we donate to charities and aid agencies active in poor countries. Our donations, a dollar here and a dollar there, contribute to the tens of billions of dollars Americans send to other countries every year, through both taxes and charitable donations.

At least one source claims that "Americans give around three percent of our collective income to charity – more than the citizens of any other country."

We recognize the concept of "limited good." We get it that scamming and milking the American system leaves less for everyone. There are poor, chronically ill, and homeless people in this country right now. I know because I am low-income, and I am chronically ill. I face many a steeple-chase in accessing adequate health care. The simple fact is that even in a rich country like the United States, resources are limited.

We recognize the need for triage. We calculate what we can do. We can't do everything, so we ration our resources and our time.

If Cause A gets the ten dollars we can spend in a week on charity, Cause B will get nothing. We can't change that  anymore than we can change gravity.

Many of us are Jews and Christians, and our scripture tells us that we will never be able to solve every problem. "The poor you will always have with you," Jesus taught. Deuteronomy 15:11, in the Old Testament, teaches the same. In both cases, the verse is placed in the context of triage, of making choices as to how to handle resources. In the New Testament, we read that a follower has purchased expensive perfume to honor Jesus. One of Jesus' disciples protest. "Should we really be spending money on perfume when we could sell it and feed the poor?" Jesus condones the splurge. Yes, help the poor, he advises, but when it comes time to spend extra for a special occasion, do so. You will never eliminate poverty, even by devoting every penny to charity.

Deuteronomy tells us to take care of our poor relations and neighbors. And we do. But Deuteronomy reminds us that we will never end poverty. We can't. We do what we can.

The Bible, and real morality, teach that "charity begins at home." In 1 Timothy 5:4, Paul writes, "But if a widow has children or grandchildren, these should learn first of all to put their religion into practice by caring for their own family and so repaying their parents and grandparents, for this is pleasing to God."

This verse does not absolve believers from their duty to care for others outside the home. Jesus taught that even the Samaritan, that is, even the person most foreign to ourselves, is our neighbor. Rather, there is deep wisdom and insight into human psychology in this teaching. For humans, "the grass is always greener." The do-gooder dilettante will find it much easier to champion victims who are only images on a TV screen, and who demand only that we bash America in a Facebook post, in order to feel righteous.

If those bashing America now for her border policies were to rise from their comfortable perches in front of their ramparts from which they shoot salvos, that is, if they were to take a break from their keyboards, they would discover that real needy people, the bum on the street corner of their nearest slum are difficult. TV images don't smell bad. TV images don't try to pick your pocket. TV images don't return to drugs after you've invested time, money, and heartache in getting them clean. TV images don't make choices that sabotage their would-be saviors' best intentions. Yes. Charity begins at home. The person a truly caring person will focus on helping is nearby, and is difficult. If you can't help the person next to you, chances are you can't help the person behind that TV image.

I would love it if every open-borders supporter in this country now would take a day off from bashing America and Americans on Facebook and report to their local low-income area to devote their salvific efforts to American populations. I live in a low-income city. Mere feet away from where I sit, typing this document, there are men camped in a public park. It's 42 degrees Fahrenheit right now. Those men have nothing but ragged jackets between themselves and the cold. Many of them are alcoholics, drug addicts, and mentally ill. Many are African Americans, descendants of histories of injustice. Their tragic exposure and pathetic appearances are not the whole story. These men live mere feet away from a Salvation Army rescue facility. Why do they sleep in the park? Because the Salvation Army demands that before they receive three “hots and a cot”, the homeless men renounce drugs and weapons. They must also receive treatment for any mental illnesses. These men want their booze and their weapons more than they want an inside bed. They want to refuse treatment for their schizophrenia more than they want a warmth and nourishment. That's what it's like helping real people, rather than TV images. You face the impasses erected by real human beings' own bad choices.

Interestingly, many of my Facebook friends agitating for open borders don't live in neighborhoods anything like mine. When I google their hometowns, I find that they live in towns with above-average incomes, and below-average minority populations. If their photos are any guide, I can conclude that they live in comfortable suburban homes surrounded by large yards and colorful gardens.

Is it any wonder that they and I see America differently? I don't live in a rich enclave where illegal immigrants are the landscaper or the nanny. I and my neighbors don't have landscapers and we don't have nannies. We know how disruptive mass illegal immigration can be.

Over ten years ago, a local Democratic politician acknowledged to me that a much-needed, century-old hospital in my city would have to go under because it could no longer handle the burden of offering healthcare to immigrants. Why? Immigrants can claim that they have no income. They are often paid under the table. There is no record of their income. They send their salaries to their native countries, so they have no US bank accounts. Their health care tab shifts to the taxpayer. I witnessed such transactions first hand. I saw recent arrivals to the US claim to have no income and no assets and go out to the parking lot and enter brand new SUVs.

This financial drain is not the only price we pay for our flawed immigration system. In a 2007 article in City Journal, John Leo summarized then-recent research conclusions about the impact of diversity. Leo was summarizing the research of Robert Putnam, a superstar Harvard scholar, and reported that Putnam's "five-year study shows that immigration and ethnic diversity have a devastating short- and medium-term influence on the social capital, fabric of associations, trust, and neighborliness that create and sustain communities."

In my minority-majority city, I live the truth Putnam discovered. Inside the borders of this diverse city, people are ruder. They throw their garbage on the street rather than in a handy trash receptacle. They play music loudly. They get into fistfights. I have witnessed dozens, maybe over a hundred, street fistfights just from my own window: blacks against Hispanics, men against women, teens against men. In local stores, middleman minority Muslim shopkeepers hire Haitian strongmen to menace black and Hispanic shoppers.

When I cross the border, store security guards don't follow me. I am not asked to surrender my backpack before I shop. Bank personnel are courteous and eager to please and treat me less like a potential felon. Drivers follow basic traffic rules. All this happens the moment I cross the border. I am the same person. The only difference is where I am standing, inside a more diverse environment or inside a less diverse one.

There's another interesting occurrence every time I cross the border into my city. If I am given a ride, even by liberal friends, as soon as we cross the border into my city, I hear that loud, obtrusive CLICK. My driver, even among my most liberal friends, has just locked all the doors in the car.

George Borjas is himself an Hispanic immigrant. He was born in Cuba. He has shown through his research that poor, less well-educated Americans, including African Americans, suffer economically from immigration. If Jose will take that job for less than minimum wage, Joe, who must be paid on the books and be paid minimum wage, is screwed.

I think my Facebook friends who call us opponents of open borders "evil viruses" and "satanic" see America very differently. I think these people see America as guilty; as needing to be punished. As a big, fat, ATM machine that should be milked for all it has got, and then milked some more. I think they see America not as their home at all. Not as something that they worked on. Not as something that they hold dear. I think they see America as something outside themselves, just a big, bad bank whose vaults should be emptied out and then burned.

Team open borders calls us xenophobes, bigots, haters, Nazis, and accuse us of lacking compassion. They insist that they have a monopoly on compassion and Biblical values.

I always find it rather ironic when people who have more money than I do, and whose exercise of compassion is limited to insulting me on Facebook, accuse me of being a xenophobic bigot. My first job after receiving my BA was as a teacher in a tiny, remote village in an impoverished, war-torn African country. After that I taught in a small village in Asia. I lived for years without electricity or running water, and I risked deadly disease, a few of which I managed to contract and, luckily, survived.

It is not compassionate or empathetic or Christian or Biblical to urge desperate people to leave their homes and walk over a thousand miles to a border that will inevitably frustrate them. It isn't compassionate or empathetic or Christian or Biblical to rage against one's own nation and one's own neighbors as "diabolical" "evil viruses." In Leviticus, in the Old Testament, and in Jesus' words in the New Testament, we are commanded to love our neighbors as we love ourselves. To love our neighbors, we have to start with loving ourselves.

Opening the borders is not a loving thing to do, not to others, and not to ourselves. A rational border policy is about appropriate self-care. There's a reason parents must put on their own oxygen masks before they put on their child's. A parent who allows himself to suffocate is not going to be able to rescue his child. A nation that invites chaos by abandoning the most basic of security can do nothing for escapees from another chaos-torn country. We can help Honduras, and the world best when we maintain our own integrity.

I invite open-borders supporters to act on their publicly announced compassion. Catholic Relief Services and numerous other aid agencies are active in Honduras and welcome donations. There are many opportunities to volunteer in Honduras. Inevitably, successful Americans who have achieved the American dream will have the most to contribute to others. That basic fact should be enough to cause open borders supporters to rethink their policy.

When we have done well for ourselves, we are better able to do well for others.


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1 posted on 11/30/2018 7:13:15 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

No.


2 posted on 11/30/2018 7:14:32 AM PST by Principled (No one will conquer America, from within or without, until its citizenry are disarmed.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Solomon’s network of military border fortresses in the Negev:

http://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-kadesh-barnea-davids-negev-border-fortress-network.htm

Introduction:

At least 50 fortresses have been discovered in the Negev of Israel. These fortresses were built by Solomon in 950 BC to protect the southern borders with Egypt and Edom. If Solomon did not built them, then the next candidate would have to be David. It is possible but quite unlikely that Saul built them. Solomon is clearly the best choice from a historical, Biblical and archeological point of view.

It is clear that Pharaoh Shishak destroyed the fortresses in 924 BC. We even have his account etched into the stone at Temple of Amon in Karnak. (see below) Since we know that the fortresses had a short occupation life, this fits perfectly with Solomon as the builder just 26 years earlier.

The opinion on the builder and dates of these fortresses varies depending on the bias of the archeologist and fall into two categories: Those who believe the Bible and those who do not. Basically, those archeologists who believe the Bible attribute these 50 fortresses to Solomon in 950 BC. Those archeologists who say Solomon and David are mostly a myth, will attribute dates before or after David/Solomon, but fight hard to avoid any suggestion that confirms the historicity of David/Solomon as revealed in the Bible. Sure these Bible trashing archeologists believe David and Solomon were real people, just that most of what the Bible says is untrue. They have a peculiar vested interest in dating that is a few years before or after Solomon, any date as long as it excludes the possibility that the Bible is true. Having examined most of the archeological data, it is clear that these fortresses were indeed built by Solomon in 950 BC.

This study focuses only on the outmost ring of these fortresses in an effort to map the border of Israel at the time of Solomon. Israel’s borders with Egypt at Wadi El Arish and Edom at the Arabah valley are noted. These 50 military fortresses were dotted throughout the Negev, and end at the Egyptian border and the southern Arabah valley. By simply plotting the locations of these fortresses, we can therefore determine where the border between Israel and Egypt lie, from an archeological point of view.

Special attention is placed in this study on refuting Qudeirat as a candidate for Kadesh Barnea. One of the problems with locating Kadesh Barnea at Ein el Qudeirat or Ein el Qedeis, is that it is 28 km inside the formal border of the promised land. Stated simply, Israel did not spend 38 years “wandering in the wilderness” in the promised land they were forbidden to enter. Archeologically, it can be proven that Ein el Qudeirat was part of a series of up to 50 military fortresses built by King David and or Solomon about 1000 BC.

Excavations have shown that many of the 50 military fortresses were built on virgin soil about 1000 BC, including Qudeirat. Archeologists assign ranges from 1100 BC - 950 BC for Qudeirat, therefore Ein el Qudeirat cannot be Kadesh Barnea because the exodus happened at 1450 BC.

These unusual and varied shapes of the many fortresses is explained by the fact they were built to follow the contour of lookout plateau or hill top.

“The archaeological findings reveal, first of all, that a network of fortresses, including the first three types, existed in the 10th century B.C., and that most of the sites, after a brief phase of occupation, were permanently abandoned. Second, at Kadesh-barnea in the 8th-7th centuries B.C. a solid-walled fortress was erected over its predecessor’s remains.” (The Iron Age Fortresses in the Central Negev, Rudolph Cohen, 1979 AD)

One of the big discussions is the what the Fortresses were used for. Some Bible trashing archeologists believe the fortresses were not used for military purposes but were mere fortified stock yards to protect herds and small families of nomads. Although the Nomads would sing “Lord I was born a rambling man” as a the song goes, they decided, in the spirit of Jed Clampett of the Beverly Hillbillies, to move into the big city. Well maybe not the big city, but they built small towns to live in. You know, the “hunter-gatherer, wanderer” settles down and become a farmer. Of course all the archeological evidence points away from these fortresses as small social communities and points directly to their military use soldiers stationed in some desolate outpost. They even had to make their own dinnerware! Once this fact is established, and it has been established, then we have no options but to conclude that these fortresses were built by the Solomon of the Bible!

A. Bible verses that indicate fortresses: “Strong holds”

There is evidence from the Bible that Israel built fortresses. Although the one’s in Judges 6:2 are not likely the one’s under discussion here, they show a Biblical precedence for fortress building or “strongholds”:

“The power of Midian prevailed against Israel. Because of Midian the sons of Israel made for themselves the dens which were in the mountains and the caves and the strongholds.” Judges 6:2

David Sheltered in strongholds he may have built or were already in existence:

“David stayed in the wilderness in the strongholds, and remained in the hill country in the wilderness of Ziph. And Saul sought him every day, but God did not deliver him into his hand.” 1 Samuel 23:14

“Then Ziphites came up to Saul at Gibeah, saying, “Is David not hiding with us in the strongholds at Horesh, on the hill of Hachilah, which is on the south of Jeshimon?” 1 Samuel 23:19

“David went up from there and stayed in the strongholds of Engedi.” 1 Samuel 23:29

“When David fled from Saul, seeking refuge in the wilderness of Judah, he stayed in mesadim (fortresses) (1 Samuel 23:14). This same kind of fortress or stronghold is later referred to in 1 Samuel 24:22 as a mesudah. (The Fortresses King Solomon Built to Protect His Southern Border, Rudolph Cohen, 1985 AD)

Jerusalem is called a stronghold of David, which indicates he built them all since the same phrase is used:

“Then David dwelt in the stronghold; therefore it was called the city of David.” 1 Chronicles 11:7

“Then some of the sons of Benjamin and Judah came to the stronghold to David.” 1 Chronicles 12:16

There is an indication that there were strongholds in the wilderness:

“From the Gadites there came over to David in the stronghold in the wilderness, mighty men of valor, men trained for war, who could handle shield and spear, and whose faces were like the faces of lions, and they were as swift as the gazelles on the mountains.” 1 Chronicles 12:8

There is no indication that Solomon built the extensive network of 50 fortresses under discussion here. However, David’s key was to establish control of Jerusalem and the promised land. Solomon greatly expanded his rule so he is the obvious candidate for these fortresses.

B. Locations of the 50 fortresses:

“The site, [Ahoroni Fortress] named for the late Y. Aharoni, be-longs to the category of “Israelite fortresses,” of which some 50 have been discovered in the Negev Highlands. ... According to the general plan of the site and the finds, it may clearly be classified as one of the “Israelite fortresses in the Negev.”” (The “Aharoni Fortress” Near Quseima and the “Israelite Fortresses” in the Negev, Zeev Meshel, 1994 AD)

More than 40 sites in the Wilderness of Beer-sheba and the Wilderness of Zin have been surveyed, and 12 of them have been partially excavated to date. (Enclosed Settlements in the Negeb, Ze’ev Herzog, 1983 AD)

In 1975, Ze’ev Meshel conducted a survey in the area of Nahal Sirpad, with the help of the staff of the field school at Sde Boqer. As a result of all these archaeological surveys, more than 40 Iron Age fortresses have now been identified in the Central Negev. (The Fortresses King Solomon Built to Protect His Southern Border, Rudolph Cohen, 1985 AD)


3 posted on 11/30/2018 7:17:46 AM PST by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: SeekAndFind

Even if open borders is Biblical, it is irrelevant to governing this country.


4 posted on 11/30/2018 7:17:48 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: SeekAndFind

No


5 posted on 11/30/2018 7:17:49 AM PST by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Wonder how many more decades do Latin America and the rest of the third world need to get their shit straight? Why should they try when Uncle Sugar is here


6 posted on 11/30/2018 7:18:33 AM PST by Sybeck1
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To: SeekAndFind

If open borders is somehow “Biblical”, why did God promise the Israelites their own country?


7 posted on 11/30/2018 7:20:39 AM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: SeekAndFind
It used to be in the hearts of people to belong and not waver from that belonging.

In the Bible, Assyrians are Assyrians and Romans, Romans .. etc.

Now I know Ruth attached herself to Naomi and God records that to tell an unusual story about an unusual event as part of His plan to bring forth Messiah.

For the most part, until muslims began to pollute the planet with their vile selves, Germans stayed in Germany, the French in France and etcetera.

No one was interested in conquering another nation by invasion.

Until the muslims went on the move.

Even we here in the USA had almost NO problems along our southern border ..... until the muslims invaded the southern continent

8 posted on 11/30/2018 7:20:47 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true; I have no proof .... but they're true.)
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To: SeekAndFind

No.


9 posted on 11/30/2018 7:21:25 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Ruth Bader Ginsburg doctor is a taxidermist.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why did God allow Solomon to have 1,000 wives?

or maybe it was 700 wives and 300 concubines, but whose counting.


10 posted on 11/30/2018 7:22:17 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: SeekAndFind

What an inconceivably stupid question.


11 posted on 11/30/2018 7:23:15 AM PST by onedoug
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To: SeekAndFind
Acts 17:26 - From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands.
12 posted on 11/30/2018 7:23:22 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: SeekAndFind

Deut. 32:8 is clear; there are distinct nations and they have borders. And Ezra 10 clearly indicates assimilation is necessary to join a nation.


13 posted on 11/30/2018 7:24:05 AM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

RE: Why did God allow Solomon to have 1,000 wives?

The Bible does not specifically say why God allowed polygamy. As we speculate about God’s silence, there is at least one key factor to consider. Due to patriarchal societies, it was nearly impossible for an unmarried woman to provide for herself. Women were often uneducated and untrained. Women relied on their fathers, brothers, and husbands for provision and protection. Unmarried women were often subjected to prostitution and slavery.

So, it seems that God may have allowed polygamy to protect and provide for the women who could not find a husband otherwise. A man would take multiple wives and serve as the provider and protector of all of them. While definitely not ideal, living in a polygamist household was far better than the alternatives: prostitution, slavery, or starvation. In addition to the protection/provision factor, polygamy enabled a much faster expansion of humanity, fulfilling God’s command to “be fruitful and increase in number; multiply on the earth” (Genesis 9:7). Men are capable of impregnating multiple women in the same time period, causing humanity to grow much faster than if each man was only producing one child each year.

BTW, what does the question have to do with Open Borders?


14 posted on 11/30/2018 7:24:37 AM PST by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Israelites welcomed proselytes on the basis of assimilation. You couldn’t continue to act like a Moabite or Edomite and wreck the place. Plus, land ownership was hereditary and could not be permanently separated from the blood line.


15 posted on 11/30/2018 7:24:43 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: SeekAndFind

God made nations. He established lines for those nations. It was man who decided to change national lines by invasion. It was at the Tower of Babel that God changed man to many languages because of what everyone was doing at Babel. They were of one voice until that little episode. God then dispersed all these peoples around the world, with their languages where they established their nations. Simple as that, yes, God established national lines. Read Genesis where He lays out the exact lines that Israel will one day have. It is much larger than now. They will probably obtain a lot of those territories with the Ezekiel 38 and 39 war, and possibly the Psalms 83 war. There is a lot of nations bordered right up against Israel and just out from Israel mentioned in those wars that will give Israel the lands God said they will have.


16 posted on 11/30/2018 7:27:40 AM PST by RetiredArmy (We are in the Last Days of human history. Jesus is coming back, & soon! Do U know Him?)
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To: jeffc

In my recollection. Jesus did not condemn the Israelites for keeping Samaritans out of the country. Jesus still loved them, and went to them to offer Himself as their Savior too. If I am wrong about this, correct me. I firmly believe God expects a country to self protect. But to be generous too.


17 posted on 11/30/2018 7:31:25 AM PST by Deepeasttx
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To: ScottfromNJ

Good quote. I believe it reaffirms God’s Babel judgment, as does the enduring observable FACT that man CANNOT overcome the separation...until Antichrist appears (he’s already here in spirit).

The LORD has an abbondanza of wrath stored up for him and all who follow him.


18 posted on 11/30/2018 7:32:12 AM PST by avenir ("But as for you, teach what accords with sound doctrine."--Paul to Titus)
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To: SeekAndFind

Is open borders the Biblical stance?

Why was Jerusalem a walled city?


19 posted on 11/30/2018 7:33:02 AM PST by odawg
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To: odawg

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All cities were walled, or they would not last long as cities.


20 posted on 11/30/2018 7:34:13 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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