It’s the other Shoa.
More subtle.
Fake poll from the Tribune.
If they reject the religion, they aren’t jews.
With THOSE definitions, who would want to claim any of it?
Title is misleading. I’ll bet quite a few Christians would say no to those definitions, too.
What was the median age of those being asked this question?
Most young people (under 35) go through a time of believing themselves to be either atheist or at the least agnostic.
Some grow out of it and some don’t. I went through something like this myself. “Atheist” at 17 y/o, Believing-Again by age
30. Sometimes when your High School dreams stop coming true, and real life kicks you in the a**, you are ever so thankful for your inner faith in God. I was, and still am.
That 42% are liberal, of course.
“Close to 17% of the Jewish respondents identified themselves as Sunday Stalwarts (Shabbes stalwarts, obviously); about 8% each said they were God-and-Country Believers, Diversely Devout, Relaxed Religious, or Spiritually Awake; 17% said they are Religion Resisters, and a whopping 25% called themselves Solidly Secular.”
This mirrors my personal observation. The first category has lots of children, so I’d expect those numbers to change substantially in a decade or so.
I’ve heard that Israel is very secular as well.
Liberal Jews could give a rats behind about Israel..their religeon is abortion, the more the merrier..Orthodox Jews vote Republican 92 percent of the time..watched the Chabad Telethon on Sunday, they were praising and thanking President Trump non stop for putting the embassy in Jerusalem
correction....
“42 percent of Americans with Jewish-sounding names reject the Jewish faith”
there, fixed it.
it is a similar problem for many Protestant Christian and Catholic churches ... but the percentages vary, of course.
persons with Jewish heritage, grandparents say....have one of the worst percentage scores on the faith index, but many churches only have higher faith commitments because they’ve separated from the PCUSA/Episcopal type “progressive churches”...who appear, for the most part, to have jumped the shark entoto (abandoned anything resembling any form of genuine faith).
America as a whole is experiencing a faith crisis...
as for many folks, communistic politics (communism, socialism, democrapic socialism, progressivism, or ‘social justice’...... is their new substitute-for-a-genuine-faith-commitment)
it is very very very very very sad for them, and of course sad for the rest of us insofar as they are able to cram their Satanic policies down on the rest of us through their misuse of governmental power
pray for America (there ARE millions of real faithful out here, still...)
What precisely is a Jew? That is a sincere question.
I have been studying the Word - Old and New Testaments - since age five. I was attending pastoral conferences by special invitation starting from age sixteen.
I learned at age eleven that I was part Semite on my mother’s side (via a woman of real Hebrew lineage, Hebrew name and Hebrew surname). I was pleasantly surprised: I had spent so much time studying the Israelites that I was glad to know I shared some kinship with them. (It was not a big deal in our Christian family - which was my mother did not make much of it.)
I studied Hebrew at a public university. I was the lone Gentile. Only the teacher (a native of Israel) and I knew the Old Testament to any significant degree. This was entirely germane: As a formal language without a country for two millennia, Hebrew became a stagnant language. Modern Hebrew is very close to ancient Hebrew. For that reason, this teacher, though she had degrees in Hebrew and English, often used Old Testament passages to teach usage in context. I usually understood those contexts; the “Jews” in the class usually did not.
So when I say they were ignorant, I know this to be true; yet the rest of the class were all “Jews”: secular, hedonist, atheist, as far as I could glean. Each had gone through Bar Mitzvah or Bas Mitzvah - but it obviously meant little.
They were not hostile to me, but they were not accepting either (although the teacher to some extent was). Many of them had spent time in Kibbutzim in Israel. They were very aware and proud that they were so-called Jews: It was very much an us-against-them environment.
I have wondered ever since on what basis they are Jews?
They say it is not a race.
They say it is not an ethnicity (not really, since they are culled from any and all ethnicities).
They say it is not a religion (not really, since so many of them denounce Judaism).
What is it, except an excuse to think they are better than everyone else?
The closest I have seen to a valid answer was a post recently (where I do not recall, perhaps here): that they are a modern socio-political construction, and are not the “Judahites” of the Biblical times.
I now find the use of the term, Jew, to be rather absurd than valid in today’s social, religious, and political contexts.
If true, doesn’t surprise me when you consider that Jews vote Dem and seldom support Israel.
if only Socialists would turn away from their very destructive 19th century secular religion in similar numbers.
Most American Jews and many Jews since the "enlightenment" have internalized the old anti-Semitic chrstian stereotype (and I'm referring to the old one, not how chrstians think today, especially American Fundamentalist Protestants) that their sole role in the world is to be irreverent, free-thinking, subversive, iconoclastic skeptics in a world filled with pious, simple, faithful, believing chrstians. This is it. The entire non-Orthodox "leadership" is fraudulent (since the authentic rabbinate are always the leaders in each generation). They really think that. They reject everything in the Torah and everything in the Hebrew Bible in order to be the "Black Rebel Motorcycle Club" of chrstendom.
"Mainstream" Jews have been known to scream at Orthodox Jews and tell them they're "not really Jewish." I had an online friend who, on quoting the Torah against homosexuality, was called a "Fundamentalist chrstian(!)." That's how bad it is.
In a world that formerly contained belief in exclusive religious truth (though, granted, no one agreed on just what it was) liberal Jews see the Jewish mission as replacing that outdated concept with total religious subjectivism, since we can allegedly "no longer afford" to believe simply as our ancestors once did. They really believe this. They define themselves by it. They're literally sick.
Until relatively recently societies criminalized the denial of their most fundamental beliefs. Now thanks to liberal Jews everyone is criminalizing denial of various genocides. In most of the western world denial of Churban 'Europa" (but not of G-d, Torah, or anything else) is now against the law, and the lesson we're supposed to learn is that "people who actually believe that stuff go around killing each other, so let's stop." Now there's talk of outlawing the denial of the Armenian genocide and the Holodomor. Isn't this just a little bit . . . strange?
Liberal Jews believe that Churban 'Europa' (the Sho'ah) is the central event of Jewish and world history. It has superseded every previous belief and nullified the Torah and every traditional religious belief out there. I suspect that many of these liberal "leaders" don't even believe the Babylonians and Romans destroyed a Temple in Jerusalem, much less that G-d spoke at Sinai or that the Israelites were really slaves in Egypt. This is why the number one holiday for American Jews is the minor festival of Chanukkah, which is celebrated by liberal Jews as the anniversary of Thomas Jefferson receiving the Bill of Rights on Mt. Rushmore.
These deluded people actually are trying to create a new, worldwide secular ethical system on Auschwitz--on the graves of slaughtered Jews. What kind of world would be based on Auschwitz???
How many people recall that Judaism in its original and quintessential form is not a neighborhood religion but a Theocratic State where rejection of HaShem and Torah are forbidden? That long before the Jews became the people who died to set the human race free of religious objectivism they were exterminating the Seven Nations of Canaan because G-d told them to? Nobody, right? I suppose Joshua was a Southern Baptist or a medieval Catholic crusader who just happened to show up in a time machine.
This is the great disease of the past two hundred years: the idea of Jewishness defined solely by "enlightenment" values. It's disgusting, and of all people on earth it probably disgusts me the most, because since I have been six years old I have been dedicated to those ancient warriors of G-d. To replace that with a mission to secularize the world is an obscenity, but ironically this whole idea comes from the chrstianity they hate so much and is shared with anti-Semites who say the exact same thing.
Some time back I saw a video on YouTube of an evolutionist answering a rabbi's objections to that doctrine. He began with the words "I thought Jewish people didn't believe in G-d."
After that there is nothing left to say.
This doesn’t shock me at all. American Jews are overwhelmingly left wing, to the point of being Marxist. There’s no room for any god but appetites to these people.
Why shouldn’t Jews reject their religion? Where was God when they needed Him? Nowhere. Their culture was annihilated by the devil without God lifting a finger to help.
What percent support homosexuality and abortion?
I’ve read the Bible; this is not a new problem.