Posted on 07/28/2018 8:00:05 AM PDT by Salvation
It is my opinion that the apostles did not consider their writing to be scripture.
I can only go with what was written. Peter clearly states that he believes Paul’s writing are scripture.
Because it really sounds like you’re saying that daniel1212 has told you that no, this is not what he believes, and you’ve just said “I don’t care; I’m going to keep on attacking in this manner anyways.”
But you fellows refuse to read where Paul told the Corinthians to get that guy out of the Church that was bedding his step mother.
It just takes one apple to rotten the whole barrel which is
the reason Paul wanted him out of the Church.
We know every one has sinned and come short of the glory of God but Paul did not suggest kicking every one out of the Church so it appears to me that Charles Pope makes a very good point.
But you insist on ignoring the question brought up on the thread and making it look like some one is denying that we are saved by grace.
You need to leave your bias in the outhouse and try to be a little more honest with people who believe the Bible even if they do not quite see it your way
And you need to quit assuming what you think i believe.
“””Which is largely a strawman as directed to Bible Christians,”””
No ,it is not a straw man, it is just what the thread was about it is you that are bringing in the the straw man B.S
If you really believe what you say why do you have to ignore the real question and get off on what every one already knows?
Bye now.
I can only go with what was written. Peter clearly states that he believes Paul’s writing are scripture.
By the way, did you have a chance to read my response in to #448 in #449?
I am not Catholic but i think Charles Pope makes sense in the post from Salvation as do some of his other writings.
Being saved by grace through faith which is showed by works ( all three works together ) takes nothing away from what he said.
If all sins were thought to be the same then why would Paul insist on getting the adulterer out of the Church but at the same time admitting that all have sinned, and that he himself was a sinner.
We tend to get away from the real subject so far that no one has any idea of what the argument is about to begin with.
Ah, okay, I missed the specific question.
There is a difference between living a life of sin openly and in defiance to God versus sinning and being repentant. In the case of the adulterer, he was called out for his sin, but was not repentant, and was to be treated as a heathen until he repented. This is church discipline.
This is church discipline.
God knows the hearts so he can judge righteously, but the Church must rely on the outward works of the individual.
Mathew 6:10
“Your kingdom come, Your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.”
Agreed. Some are too lax, others add legalistic requirements.
Agreed. Some are too lax, others add legalistic requirements.
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