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To: marshmallow

They are not contracted to do anything if the christian God isnt real. If the christian God is real they still arent until confirmation when they are old enough to make a decision.


9 posted on 06/23/2018 6:13:32 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: AndyTheBear
Baptized? Not baptized? Confirmed? Not confirmed? I'm not sure these are even the most basic distinctions.

It is truly right and just,
our duty and our salvation,
always and everywhere to give you thanks,
Lord, holy Father, almighty and eternal God,
through Christ our Lord.

You are not "contracted" for this obligation. Every human person owes God gratitude and worship simply because they exist: in consideration of the inescapable fact that He is our Creator and we are His creatures.

18 posted on 06/23/2018 6:35:33 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("It is truly right and just, our duty and our salvation, always and everywhere to give You thanks..")
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To: AndyTheBear

She knows what it really is- a means of grace commanded by Christ himself through which God plants the seed of faith and strengthens any faith already present.
She knows there’s no lower limit, no one is too young to be baptised- she knows baptism works regardless of the receipient’s own intellect or reason because it is the grace of God at work, not a work of man.
That’s why the Marxists want to bar people from God as early as possible, long enough that the Marxists can get to them first and indoctrinate them, and that’s a tough task for them because it’s impossible to get an infant or child to read and absorb all that bull crap penned by pretentious socialist “intellectuals.”

So they operate on the principle of “if we can’t have access then Christ must not have them either.”


33 posted on 06/23/2018 6:57:28 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: AndyTheBear

“If the christian God is real they still arent until confirmation when they are old enough to make a decision.”

No, the real duties of a Christian begin at Baptism.

1269 Having become a member of the Church, the person baptized belongs no longer to himself, but to him who died and rose for us.76 From now on, he is called to be subject to others, to serve them in the communion of the Church, and to “obey and submit” to the Church’s leaders,77 holding them in respect and affection.78 Just as Baptism is the source of responsibilities and duties, the baptized person also enjoys rights within the Church: to receive the sacraments, to be nourished with the Word of God and to be sustained by the other spiritual helps of the Church.79

1270 “Reborn as sons of God, [the baptized] must profess before men the faith they have received from God through the Church” and participate in the apostolic and missionary activity of the People of God.80


41 posted on 06/23/2018 7:23:45 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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