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[Catholic Caucus] Fr. James Martin rebuked after urging Catholics to support LGBT Pride
LifeSite News ^ | June 4, 2018 | Lisa Bourne

Posted on 06/05/2018 2:26:11 PM PDT by ebb tide

NEW YORK, June 4, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) -- There’s no need for Catholics to shy way from gay pride month, according to Father James Martin, because the fundamental purpose of the events related to these celebrations is to allow LGBT people to be proud of who they are after years of persecution.

Martin’s tweets, coming early on the morning of June 2, follow a tweet from Bishop Thomas Tobin of Providence, Rhode Island, the preceding afternoon of June 1 about how Catholics should be wary of pride month events.

Bishop Tobin cautioned Catholics about pride month events – which are often marked by exceedingly lewd dress and behavior, including public sex acts, with children frequently present and exposed to sordid displays. His tweet specifically referenced the events related to pride month and pointed out, as the Catholic Church teaches, the immorality of an active homosexual lifestyle.

“Catholics should be very wary of events in the June LGBTQ month,” Bishop Tobin stated. “It’s not a fun-filled, family-friendly celebration of respect. It promotes a lifestyle and agenda that, in the extreme, is morally offensive.”

LGBT activists and others celebrate gay pride month each year in June to commemorate the anniversary of the 1969 Stonewall Riots. The series of riots in New York City’s Greenwich Village happened after a police raid on the Stonewall Inn, an establishment frequented by members of the gay community. The riots launched the modern LGBT movement.

Father Martin, the editor-at-large for America magazine and a Vatican communications consultant defended gay pride month, skirted the substance of gay pride events, and suggested they were about respect for LGBT people.

One post appeared to qualify the subject of pride month events somewhat, but proceeded to challenge individuals who may not have friends identifying as LGBT.

Martin then promoted pride month, tweeting:

The Catholic Church teaches that homosexual attraction is not a sin, but homosexual activity is, and that while individuals experiencing same-sex attraction are to be treated with respect and compassion, they, like everyone, are called to be chaste.

One advocate for people with same-sex attraction endeavoring to live chastely told LifeSiteNews that peace does not come with an active LGBT lifestyle, rather only through Christ.

“James Martin is correct,” George Carneal said. “LGBT individuals should be treated with ‘respect, compassion and sensitivity.’ However, while God loves everyone, ‘children of God’ are those who have accepted Christ as their Savior.”

“You cannot bypass Jesus to get to God,” Carneal added. “God would not give me peace with the lies of the ‘Christian’ liberal theology and LGBT narrative.”

“I spent 25 miserable years in the LGBT lifestyle,” continued the speaker and author of “From Queer to Christ.” “I finally decided to listen to God, not any religious leader promoting something that was keeping me in bondage and in rebellion against God’s Word.”

“Celibacy is an option and LGBT individuals need to know there is hope in getting out of that life,” he said. “Give your life to Christ and find real joy and peace!”

Another ex-gay and advocate for chaste same-sex attracted Christians also rejected the idea inferred in Martin’s tweets that pride events convey dignity for same-sex-attracted people as children of God.

“If he believes pride month is tied to religious expression and a relationship with God, he is describing a different pride event than what I've participated in or know them to be,” Daren Mehl told LifeSiteNews.

“Every human is loved by God, true,” Mehl said. “But Martin is falling short of the whole truth of pride.”

Christ calls us to sanctification through mortifying our fleshly desires by his grace, he said, but “every pride event I've been to made it very clear all desires should be encouraged regardless if they fall into the category of sin or not.”

Mehl, a speaker and president of Voice of the Voiceless, concurs that every person is deserving of dignity, respect, and compassion.

However, he said, “I disagree with Martin that displaying yourself half-naked grinding with another human imitating sinful sexual acts is dignified.”

“And while I -- "little r" -- respect their right to do so, I have compassion for their eternity which is at risk,” Mehl said. “In love, we should be sensitive to all people, and in doing so share Jesus and disciple willing people to live how Jesus commands.”

“Lusting after your fellow man is not a Christian behavior, yet a large part of pride events demonstrate that they morally accept that behavior,” Mehl said. “I've never seen half-naked men grinding on a pride float and imitating sex acts getting boos from the audience.”

Mehl told LifeSiteNews that he believes the men he has seen at pride events are called to better life with Christ.

“I believe the dignity of their title of ‘Children of God,’ as Martin puts it, is not on display for all to see. I do not see Jesus being lifted up at pride,” he said. “I do not see God being glorified at pride. I see men and sexuality and sexual behaviors and pride being glorified. I see ‘Do as thou will’ being glorified.”

TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholics; francischurch; homos; homosexualagenda; jamesmartin; jesuits; lgbt; martin
Click link to original article to view the homo Martin's tweets.
1 posted on 06/05/2018 2:26:12 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I’ve had exposure to several Jesuit universities, and there are more than a few active homosexual jesuits out there.

Martin is very likely one of them.

2 posted on 06/05/2018 2:28:32 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: ebb tide

3 posted on 06/05/2018 2:32:56 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
“It’s not a fun-filled, family-friendly celebration of respect. It promotes a lifestyle and agenda that, in the extreme, is morally offensive.” 'in the extreme, is morally offensive? No disrespect towards Tobin, I know he is solid, and I'm happy to see him fight the good fight - I only wish he was stronger with the wording in his message. At a minimum it is morally offensive, in the extreme it is an abomination!
4 posted on 06/05/2018 2:40:10 PM PDT by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. - (Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ebb tide

Sounds like a homo who studied child rearing.

5 posted on 06/05/2018 2:41:52 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you)
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To: ebb tide

Martin: If you have none (and no friends with same sex attraction), then ask yourself why not.”

Ok. I have no friends with SSA and I shall ask myself. Why not? Because the numerous people with SSA that I know are gross, vicious and repulsive adolescents who have not developed or become adults. If they were cool and lived like normal people who talk more about religion and less about politics, then we can be friends.

6 posted on 06/05/2018 2:49:20 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: ebb tide
Having a sinful nature is our fallen state
Falling into sin, is ubiquitous

But becoming PROUD of our sinful nature is a horrible error
Losing all volitional control,
Blinding us from our need for
Confession, Contrition, Repentance, and Penance
further separating ourselves from G_D

Gay Pride is an Anathema

7 posted on 06/05/2018 2:57:28 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: ebb tide

WHO doesn’t think that Fr. Martin is a HOMOSEXUAL?? Or is he just a HERETIC?

8 posted on 06/05/2018 3:16:03 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ebb tide

I don’t understand why the Jesuits don’t sanction weird priests like this Father James Martin befuddles me. Going back in time, the weirdos started with the Berrigans. Since their time, there has been lots of others who, instead of concerning themselves with God’s work, they are into political and social issues. The Jesuits now have a bad reputation. It gets worse with people like Father Martin. The order should sit on jerks like him.

9 posted on 06/05/2018 3:24:11 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent (.)
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

Maybe it’s because Martin works for a Jesuit pope.

10 posted on 06/05/2018 3:25:59 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: HangnJudge

Well said.

11 posted on 06/05/2018 3:30:34 PM PDT by Bigg Red (The USA news industry, the MSM-13, takes a machete to the truth. {h/t TigersEye})
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To: maxwellsmart_agent

Yes, the Berrigans. That was when then Jesuits were falling under the influence of the KGB. Liberation theology was not a Jesuit creation. It was a work of the KGB, from the office directing the dezinformatzion operations. This was described by the Romanian intelligence defector Ion Pacepa.

12 posted on 06/05/2018 3:50:08 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: ebb tide

Is there a connection between Bishop Tobin and Cardinal Tobin?

13 posted on 06/05/2018 4:00:18 PM PDT by M.K. Borders (All I require of my government is the liberty my Grandfathers were born to.)
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To: M.K. Borders

No connection. The former is a heterosexual Catholic, the latter is one of Bergoglio’s chosen homosexuals.

14 posted on 06/05/2018 4:10:42 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Ann Archy

I always assumed he was.

15 posted on 06/05/2018 4:28:25 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: M.K. Borders
I always get Bishop Tom Tobin (Providence, RI, the Catholic) and Cardinal Joe Tobin (Newark, NJ, the Bergoglian) mixed up.

Maybe some simple mnemonic, like "T - T - Truth" will help me keep them straight.

16 posted on 06/05/2018 6:48:16 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (God is not the Author of Confusion, but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints --1 Cor 14:33)
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