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Dolan: Pope’s Reported Remarks to Gay Man, While ‘Beautiful,’ Could Require Clarification
Catholic News Agency ^ | 5/22/18

Posted on 05/23/2018 7:02:23 PM PDT by marshmallow

New York City, N.Y., May 22, 2018 / 08:30 pm (CNA/EWTN News).- The Archbishop of New York said Tuesday that while some recent comments about homosexuality attributed to Pope Francis are “orthodox teaching,” the pope's reported remarks could require clarification.

Cardinal Timothy Dolan affirmed the pope’s recent affirmation of God’s love for a gay man with whom the pontiff visited in Rome, saying: “Jesus would have said that, and so would I. That’s conservative, traditional, Catholic, orthodox teaching. The ‘Catechism’ insists on that.”

“While any sexual expression outside of a man and woman in marriage is contrary to God's purpose, so is not treating anyone, including a gay person, with anything less than dignity and respect,” Dolan added, speaking May 22 during his weekly radio show on Sirius XM’s The Catholic Channel.

“What he says is beautiful, don’t you think?” Dolan asked.

The remarks were a response to questions about Juan Carlos Cruz, a Chilean victim of sexual abuser Fr. Fernando Karadima, who told the Spanish newspaper El Pais on Friday that Pope Francis told him that it did not matter that he was gay.

“He told me ‘Juan Carlos, that you are gay does not matter. God made you like that and he loves you like that and I do not care. The Pope loves you as you are, you have to be happy with who you are,’" Cruz recalled.

Asked about the most controversial aspect of the Holy Father’s remarks, regarding whether God wills that someone experience same sex attraction, Dolan was circumspect, citing “ongoing debate” among “professional circles.”

“Is one born that way, or is it - is it nature or nurture?... I don't think the Holy Father would feel competent to speak on that.”

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TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: dolan; homosexualagenda; juancarloscruz; popefrancis
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1 posted on 05/23/2018 7:02:23 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Why the need to clarify “beautiful” remarks?


2 posted on 05/23/2018 7:05:07 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("Words with lightness thus endowed Formed melodies, I know not how." Al Stewart from "The Elf")
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To: marshmallow

Sorry, but the “beauty” of anal intercourse is just too elusive.


3 posted on 05/23/2018 7:05:45 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Ah, Dope Frank has formally canonized the rectal prolapse.


4 posted on 05/23/2018 7:10:45 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: marshmallow

“Is one born that way, or is it - is it nature or nurture?... I don't think the Holy Father would feel competent to speak on that.”

He already spoke on it, you idiot. That's the problem!

5 posted on 05/23/2018 7:11:15 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ~~Appeasing evil is cowardice~~Francis is temporary. Hell is forever.)
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To: marshmallow

For someone who obsesses with painting homosexuality in a positive light as much as he does, it makes me wonder if he is as queer as obama.


6 posted on 05/23/2018 7:14:17 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: marshmallow

God loves Ted Bundy, Pedophiles, Pol Pot and Ghengis Khan “just as they are”. The Almighty just wants then to “be themselves”.

*gets choked up* Wow, sometimes my knack for beautiful statements amazes even me. But please don’t ask me to clarify what might ruin the vague beauty of my pontificating.


7 posted on 05/23/2018 7:16:18 PM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: marshmallow

The popester strikes again. This clown pope is an utter buffoon. Has he ever read the Bible?


8 posted on 05/23/2018 7:16:37 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Fungi

And Cardinal Dolan is nothing but a sock-puppet for the Deep State.


9 posted on 05/23/2018 7:19:11 PM PDT by huckfillary
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To: Bishop_Malachi

The next step is pride parades for murderers and adulterers if they keep going in this direction.


10 posted on 05/23/2018 7:21:35 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: marshmallow

God made him like thst? Not the sexual abuse by a priest?


11 posted on 05/23/2018 7:27:38 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (#BuildKate'sWall)
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To: Bishop_Malachi

I wish I was there to hand you a tissue. And I thought that the Royal wedding was emotional!


12 posted on 05/23/2018 7:30:16 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("Words with lightness thus endowed Formed melodies, I know not how." Al Stewart from "The Elf")
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To: marshmallow

Is he setting the stage for the church to endorse homosexual marriage?


13 posted on 05/23/2018 7:32:38 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: All

One man goes swimming in a beautiful mountain lake of the purest water.

Another man goes swimming in a vat of toxic waste.

Pretemding that both actions are the same is evil.


14 posted on 05/23/2018 8:49:22 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: marshmallow

Apparently, some of the leaders of the Church are insane. God save us from this corrupt generation.


15 posted on 05/23/2018 8:51:10 PM PDT by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: marshmallow

They want so badly for homosexuality to be genetic. It is their Holy Grail, because then, instead of being a sexual peccadillo, it becomes a civil rights issue.

They want that so badly they will openly lie about it. And this person, The Cardinal Timothy Dolan, and Pope Francis, instead of helping them, are damning them to Hell.

Sad.


16 posted on 05/23/2018 8:56:21 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: DLfromthedesert

Or a minister?

There is more abuse in protestant and other non-Catholic churches than in the Catholic Church.

And more even in schools.

And more even in families.


17 posted on 05/23/2018 8:59:33 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: huckfillary

The Church deep state?


18 posted on 05/24/2018 1:25:34 AM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: DLfromthedesert

I wonder what the Pope actually said. I assume he knows that man is homosexual because of his child sexual abuse by a priest. He may have said G-d loves him, but I wonder if he actually said G-d made him that way. I would think he’d be careful with what he said, because the Church is responsible for his sin.
Also, part of me wonders if he’s pulling a Trump: making homos think they’re accepted, so they’ll actually go to Church.


19 posted on 05/24/2018 1:30:44 AM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: NetAddicted

And have you heard a denial?

Guess what? You won’t.


20 posted on 05/24/2018 2:38:49 AM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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