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1 posted on 05/23/2018 2:50:24 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
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He designates his authority to men? Ok cool, just show me a note to that effect, signed “JH of Nazareth” that designates you. Until then, you and I stand as equals before God.

Oh, Make sure it’s notarized.


2 posted on 05/23/2018 2:59:34 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: pastorbillrandles

**The teaching of the Apostles is the only authoritative source of instruction for the church, other than the Law and the Prophets of the Old Testament. The church is built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets and no Pastor, Elder, Prophet, Apostle or Evangelist has any right whatsoever to supersede them. **

Amen.

And do most people know who the rightful successor to Christ and the apostles is?


8 posted on 05/23/2018 3:59:16 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: pastorbillrandles

Given the current Pope, this requires some discernment. Mankind is downright unreliable, so I have my own relationship with the Father through Christ. In short, the clergy can kiss my enormous ass.


9 posted on 05/23/2018 4:31:16 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: pastorbillrandles

Where in the Bible is >that<???


25 posted on 05/23/2018 6:07:15 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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its called the Sanhedrin. Do what they tell you to do. Some of pharisees were white washed hypocrites.


63 posted on 05/23/2018 8:13:18 PM PDT by merkova
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To: pastorbillrandles

Nah - He allows men to do what they do whether it’s right or not....the fact that there are thousands of “branches” of Christianity tells us that men will screw up even the worship of Christ as they claim to be the authority that should be listened to....


79 posted on 05/24/2018 2:25:20 AM PDT by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrite<i> Yet anoths who pose as conservatives...mostly ;-})
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Seder customs include telling the story, discussing the story, drinking four cups of wine, eating matza, partaking of symbolic foods placed on the Passover Seder Plate, and reclining in celebration of freedom.[3]

The Seder is performed in much the same way by Jews all over the world. The Seder is the most commonly celebrated of Jewish rituals.[4]


122 posted on 05/25/2018 10:54:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: pastorbillrandles; daniel1212; FatherofFive
One needs to be very careful in assuming God has “ordained” a particular person through our actions. Just because a group of “believers” get together and “ordain” a minister, elder or deacon, does not mean that person is sent by God or that God gave us some "authority" and power to send a person out. Rather it is no different that Jethro instruction to Moses to appoint judges to assist him so he wouldn't "wear himself out" (Ex 18). It is for OUR benefit.

You are correct to say that it is believers responsibility to appoint elders and deacons. But the reason we do so is just like Moses; we can't do everything. The leaders of the Church realized that they could not take their valuable time "to wait on tables". Like Jethro's advice to Moses to appoint qualified men, the New Testament scriptures also lays down qualifications for those posts. We measure men and women against the scripture and appoint them accordingly. We ASSUME the men we appoint have been ordained from God based upon their past actions. If a person fails to live up to those qualifications, then they should be removed. But it is a big mistake to think that we have been granted some sort of mystical power to ordain people on earth. This is a very wrong Catholic notion.

God has not relinquish His sovereign control over us or "delegated His authority" for which we should be thankful for. He knows what is in our hearts.

156 posted on 05/26/2018 5:33:52 PM PDT by HarleyD ("There are very few shades of grey."-Dr. Eckleburg)
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a keeper


184 posted on 05/31/2018 2:52:45 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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