Posted on 02/20/2018 3:13:07 PM PST by ebb tide
Thank you for the pertinent link.
SpudAdoro certainly is happy to pointy finger toward our friends, the “Papal Posse”, who Raymond entertains with some regularity, on his program. That poor father priest will probably be stripped of his stripes, if the Vatican had the power.
I think they’re done. Too many hearts have been broken and there is no repentance on the part of these wolves anywhere in sight.
Grant it, as the fruits of Vatican ii are indisputably anti-Tradition, anti-piety, pro-woman milling about the Altar, destructive of rails, icons, artifacts, et cetera, et cetera, it becomes impossible to find fault with a single utterance of the SSPX founder.
(At least, not a syllable he has said, that I have read, contradicts Holy Mother Church, but re-enforces the Church of the ages, defends her and warns against injuring her.)
The NO may suffice in places, celebrated properly to the intent of VII, but Rome opened Pandora’s Box with V2, since it was a given that the Holy Mass would suffer fools and see the Traditional Latin Mass vandalized.
Thank you! I saw that statement, on EWTN, when he said it. Many had waited anxiously for that kind of clarity to be made public.
Honestly, I would like that remark of Father’s to have extrapolated into the authentic damages brought on by VII, as well.
There are for me bright lines of similarity that could have been made, between the “authentic teachings of the Catholic Church” and the *authentic Holy Mass of the Catholic Church”, no longer ordinarily celebrated today. Pathetic.
Imagine. Two forms of Holy Mass? Two popes? Ridiculous on its face. Less is more in the first case, and more is less in the second.
Thx, Vet.
God and his church will prevail. Think positively.
He didn't prevent them from speaking. And really was warning them for their own good. I see no good reason to shut down EWTN other than politics.
These are not rumors. These are what is being reported at the Remnant.
And the SSPX resistance is a case in point. You may disagree with them, but they exist and they are worried.
Frankly, I'm personally put off by all the internecine quarrels among the orthodox. Church Militant and The Remnant are on the outs because Church Militant refuses to blame the Pope for much of the current confusion. Church Militant believes SSPX is apostate. The SSPX seems to be dividing in two. The Remnant split off from The Wanderer. Then there are a variety of other orthodox groups that seem to spend more time disagreeing among themselves than working together.
Even the recent convention sponsored by The Remnant at Steubenville had its detractors.
And then there are all manner of crazies on YouTube like TradCatNight, etc. and other sedevacantists.
Not going to happen.
Please read Mrs. Don-o posts. Thank-you.
Thank you.
Good. It will validate the schism caused by this Pope. I pray the Holy Spirit acts soon.
Thanks for your insights, appreciated as always.
The Remnant is hardly an authority to rely on these days. Michael Matt and Chris Ferrara no longer can be relied upon to uphold the solid teachings of the Church as they once did. It’s unclear to many why they have adopted their new approach, but without question, their support of Modernists like Cardinal Raymond Burke and Athanasius Schneider is puzzling. Yes, Burke and Schneider are outspoken conservative Catholics but they warmly embrace Vatican II which is antithetical to the true teachings of the Catholic Church.
You might have noticed that the SSPX does not engage in any of the discussions and “internecine wars” that many of us often do. Their site attacks no one, but serves as an opportunity to teach the truth for anyone who would inquire. They seek no recognition but gladly make themselves available for responsible interviews on their positions. Indeed, your mentioning of the SSPX-Resistance is a point in fact. They have created a site that is entirely devoted to attacking and undermining the SSPX in every way imaginable. Whether you or anyone else wishes to believe that they are simply “worried” is an individual decision. The SSPX-Resistance, along with the Modernists in Rome and the secular media lead the charge against the SSPX.
So yes, like the Protestant religions that were hatched after Luther’s revolution (I recently hear there were now over 50,000), there are also have been a great many “versions” of Catholicism that have emerged since the Vatican II revolution––including those versions that speak to “traditional” Catholics as well. You may also have noticed that the promoters of all of these different versions set themselves up as the smartest people in the room. They are the ones with all the answers. But they are also the ones who will lead us away from the one and only true Church created by Jesus Christ, the Roman Catholic Church if we are not as “wise and serpents and gentle as doves”.
The SSPX is the only priestly organization whose mission is to uphold the true teachings of the Catholic Church that were instant immediately prior to Vatican II. They do not claim to be the Church, they recognize that the Church is in Rome and her earthly leader is Pope Francis. That is the teaching of the Catholic Church. You and I may perceive him to be engaging in serious error, but he is still the pope. No matter what you have been told, faithful Catholics believe that no one on this earth has the authority to judge the judge the pope–-despite the fact that we may perceive his teachings to be heretical.
It’s difficult to believe why the authors of the various traditionally-oriented sites that you have referenced say and promote what they do, but I’m far more inclined to believe that they are attempting to speak the truth and lead those who would follow in the right direction than away from God. Nevertheless, the diabolical disorientation that has grown out of the Second Vatican Council has confused some very knowledgable people. It is for that reason I have concluded that the answer does not lie in the sound and solid reasoning that I or others might determine to be the truth; but rather, in following the direction of those priests whose formation and mission is to continue the Church as she was before the revolution. And, inasmuch as there is only one priestly organization that fulfills that role, my wife and I regularly worship at an SSPX Chapel .
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