Posted on 02/07/2018 3:31:20 PM PST by ebb tide
When Pope Benedict XVI went to Fatima, Portugal, in 2010 he denounced abortion and same-sex marriage, calling them, "some of today's most insidious and dangerous threats to the common good."
Father Martin, however, called Pope Benedict's comments on same-sex marriage bizarre:
Pope Benedict XVI's comments last week in Fatima, Portugal, in which he stated that abortion and same-sex marriage, were "some of today's most insidious and dangerous threats" to the common good seemed oddly discordant. The equation of abortion, something that clearly is about a threat to life, with same-sex marriage — which no matter how you look at it, does not mean that anyone is going to die — is bizarre.
The Jesuit, who is making a mission out of normalizing homosexuality, questioned Pope Benedict's comments further, asking, "Why aren't 'abortion and war' the most 'insidious and dangerous' threats to the common good?"
He even went so far as to insinuate that Pope Benedict's teaching was rooted in a hatred for gays rather than a hope in their eternal salvation. "The great danger is that this increasingly popular equation will seem to many as having less to do with moral equivalency and more to do with a simple dislike, or even a hatred, of gays and lesbians," said Fr. Martin.
Watch the panel discuss Fr. Martin's lauding a parallel magisterium in The Download—Pushing Heresy.
Poor fool is joining the other side; the DARK side.
“Equate”, I don’t think that words means what you think it means.
Martin is really declaring his enmity to God at this point.
Nothing is veiled anymore. But isn’t that prophecy? The veils would be dropped.
Fr. Matrin will next lead a giant coast-to-coast Bible burning campaign...
(and bless it, of course)
we hear he’s renting Yankee Stadium to start...
Fr. Martin- Not to be confuse with Father Malichi Martin who was once a Jesuit, but later talked about how Evil Jesuits are. Malichi warned that the Jesuit’s were corrupting the Catholic Church.
Anyone who never listened to Father Malachi Martin should give him a listen. He wrote well know books and, he was the only totally real guest that Art Bell ever had. Here he is talking about the infiltration of the Catholic church:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn—7GTffn8
He met his end in a very suspicious way.
There certainly are malevolent entities at large. That's all I can say.
May God reward good and honest souls--- He knows who they are --- and cast down the jackals.
In the era of Benedict, Fr. Martin would be promptly defrocked and properly so. Now we encounter the modern era of “Who am I to judge”?
Oh, don’t you mean cast down the jesuits!? ;-)
You should check out the book Clerical Error, written by a New York Times correspondant who was covering Vatican II and became acquainted with Fr. Martin. The book details how Martin seduced his wife and began an affair with her (the author and his wife were subsequently divorced) Martin then left Europe for the US under unexplained circumstances, and was mysteriously relieved of his Jesuit vows. Yes, I have read hhis book on exorcism, and was impressed. But there is something inexplicable about his murky past.
I don’t think being a sinner, as are we all, is all that inexplicable.
What's your take on this?
A little off-topic, but...
Evidence has forced me to consider the possibility that Francis´ papacy may not be canonically lawful. This is for several reasons, any one of which --- if true --- could invalidate the papacy:
-because Pope Benedict XVI´s 2013 abdication as invalid due to pressure/manipulation, maybe in conjunction with "Vatileaks"
- because of prohibited "politicking" by entities like the "St. Gallen Mafia" prior to and during the 2013 Papal Conclave
-because the concept of a "dual papacy" with two men at the same time being called "Holy Father," both garbed in papal vestments and both still living in the Vatican, is uncanonical
- because of Francis´ moral heresy found in chapter 8 of Amoris Laetitia (2016)
- because of Pope Francis´ (Dec. 2017) attempt to have this entered into the Ordinary Magisterium (in plain language, for attempting to make moral heresy into Church legislation by having it published it in the AAS.)
If so, we´re in an interregnum.
What's your take on this?
All your points may be right, but more likely we are missing issues and background and therefore can never get a true picture based on “evidence.” Blogs are a fraction of the truth, often off base.
It’s not the responsibility of the laity to even understand these matters, much less solve them. The College of Cardinals exists only to decide about the pope. All the bishops are in sacramental and fraternal union with pope. Presumably with the grace of consecration they can sort this out.
No doubt a few Cardinals are privately discussing how to get a conservative pope back once Bergoglio leaves. All unknown to us. It’s interesting how the 3 Khazak bishops came up with a different approach to the marriage issue. Things like this, initially behind the scenes, different attitudes from different backgrounds, some bishops being brilliant, some holy, some corrupt, all makes a big and complex web that is not our business.
We will see only when they decide, and yes, we are pretty helpless. After all the church is patterned on royalty not democracy. It must be, for Christ is King.
There are a thousand ideas, plans and talks going on in the curia, the vatican, the dicasteries, the bishop conferences, etc. We can see broad aspects, like the pope is a communist, but we should not assume we know much. The catechism is meant for laity, but canon law and encyclicals are not.
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