U.S. State Department interference in the election of John XXIII revealed

Vox Cantoris ^ | January 29, 2018 | Vox Cantoris

[ebb tide]

The RadTradThomist has a most interesting item and has gone to the trouble of typing it out. 

A telegram to the State Department of the United States of America originally "Secret" and now, declassified. 

It reveals the suggestion that the Deep State in the USA manipulates American Cardinals on the election of the new Pope following the death of Pius XII. 

Do we think that this only happened in America?

What does it say now about the "Siri Theory?"

What does it say about Marcantonio Colonna's revelation of the CIA monitoring of the conclave of 2013 of the Obama backed Jorge Bergoglio?

From: Rome
To: Secretary of State
No: 1166, October 11, 2PM

Limited Distribution.

DURING CONVERSATION WITH EMBASSY OFFICER, VATICAN SOURCE EXPRESSED PERSONAL VIEW NEXT POPE WILL BE "ELECTED' OUTSIDE CONCLAVE BY AGREEMENT BETWEEN CARDINALS. SOURCE SAID PIUS XII ELECTED THIS MANNER AND RECALLED THAT AS CARDINALS WERE ENTERING 1939 CONCLAVE CARD FIZZARDO HAD CALLED HIM ASIDE AND ASKED HIM TO PREPARE BIOGRAPHICAL SKETCH OF PACELLI. ADDED HE CONSULTED WITH MSGR. MONTINI AND BOTH DECIDED FOR OBVIOUS REASONS NOT TO GO AHEAD WITH PIZZARDO'S REQUEST.

SPECULATING ON PIUS XII'S SUCCESSOR SOURCE SAID COLLEGE MAY VERY WELL CHOOSE AN OLD CARDINAL WHOSE SHORT PONTIFICATE MAY BE DEVOTED ENTIRELY TO THE RE-ORGANIZATION OF THE ROMAN CURIA LEFT BY DECEASED POPE IN "DEPLORABLE STATE." SOURCE INDICATED ELECTION OF SIRI, RUFFINI, OTTAVIANI WOULD BE "MISFORTUNE FOR THE CHURCH'" SINCE THESE THREE CARDINALS HAVE AN UNREALISTIC APPROACH TO GREAT PROBLEMS FACING WORLD TODAY. SOURCE SAID ELECTION OF ANYONE OF THREE COULD DEPEND ON INFLUENCE OF AMERICAN CARDINAL S AND VOLUNTEERED SUGGESTION U.S. AUTHORITIES WOULD DO WELL EXERCISE DISCREETLY "THEIR OWN INFLUENCE ON CERTAIN AMERICAN CARDINALS."

                                                                                                ZELLERBACH

In The Dictator Pope, Marcoantonio Colonna writes:

The global scene in which Francis had pictured his triumph has changed out of recognition. With the rapprochement between the United States and Russia, and with Britain leaving the European Union, Merkel and Macron are left huddled together, trying to protect the tatters of the liberal world order which seemed served up and ready to eat little more than a year ago. Of that world order Francis had cast himself as the high priest; where does he go next? The political consequences of the fiasco are various. The White House has strong cards to play against the Vatican, and one may be surprised that it has so far held back from playing them. It is known that the be CIA was monitoring the Conclave of 2013, and the thought of the use the American government might make of its knowledge is said to be causing sleepless nights in the Curia. The occasions for intervention require little finding. With the failure of the Holy See to reform its criminal financial structures, for which the evidence mounts day by day, one can readily see the international community, led by America, deciding to announce that enough is enough. The brutal dismissal in June 2017 of Libero Milone, the Vatican's Auditor General, who is not without friends in America, might prove the final provocation.
 Colonna, Marcantonio. The Dictator Pope (Kindle Locations 2717-2721). Kindle Edition.

[SubMareener]

Apparently, the connections between the US IC and the Vatican are still in tack. Q knew about Pope Francis’ plan to change the Lord’s Prayer a week before it was announced.

[Bookshelf]

Interesting that in the USA a “political” has just been named Ambassador to the Vatican. Gingrich. Expect a book when her term is finished.

[atc23]

Another reason for the December 2017 EO from the president regarding human trafficking and global money laundering - of which the Vatican may be a suspect.

Winning is Everything

[Bogie]

First Amendment, what’s dat?

[Don Corleone]

We live in interesting times.

[ebb tide]

James D. Zellerbach was appointmented the new US Ambassador to Italy in 1957.

[Fedora]

Prior to this, the U.S. intelligence community was feeding reports to President Eisenhower about Cardinal Spellman’s support for Joseph McCarthy.

[BlessedBeGod]

Q knew about Pope Francis’ plan to change the Lord’s Prayer a week before it was announced.

1) Q did not say that Francis was going to change The Lord's Prayer, and
2) Francis did not change it.

[Bigg Red]

Correct me if I am wrong, but would such a communication be addressed to just “Secretary of State” with no name as it shows on the document pictured?

[originalbuckeye]

Wake me up when the Media and the Dems care about the interference by the Obama Admin in the last Israeli election..............

[LouieFisk]

“Q knew about Pope Francis’ plan to change the Lord’s Prayer a week before it was announced.”
—
“1) Q did not say that Francis was going to change The Lord’s Prayer, and
2) Francis did not change it.”
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Oy. Some kid a 4Chan must be getting major lols that people are actually buying his Q hoax.

Y’know, I have a couple of bridges I’m willing to let go cheap. Looks like there are buyers.

[ebb tide]

I suspect it’s to mask ownership of those on the targeted “limited distribution” list.

[SubMareener]

Ok if you say so.

[Bigg Red]

Okay, thanks.

[bitt]

that pope isn’t my pope..

[iowamark]

The SoS in 1958 was John Foster Dulles, whose son Avery Dulles was then a Jesuit priest in Rome.

[The Antiyuppie]

Over the last 70 years, we’ve “interfered” with the elections of so many countries (particularly in this hemisphere) that other countries must be laughing at us.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks ebb tide. This will blow that "KGB Tried To Kill Oswald" meme right off the front page of the tabloids!

[Marchmain]

Talk about fake news!!!