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Advice for the Married: Don’t Forget the Gifts in Strange Packages
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 01-21-17 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 01/22/2018 8:26:56 AM PST by Salvation

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To: Paulie

We do have married priests. There are two groups. The first are the Eastern Rites and the second is the Anglican Usage Rite.


21 posted on 01/22/2018 3:26:33 PM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5W)
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To: Biggirl

Maybe, but that doesn’t change what I posted and why.

Also, neither one of those are Orthodox, are they?


22 posted on 01/22/2018 3:33:59 PM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Biggirl; Salvation

“We do have married priests. There are two groups. The first are the Eastern Rites and the second is the Anglican Usage Rite.”

Just wondering what Salvation thinks about that. Interested to see what you have to say.


23 posted on 01/22/2018 3:40:15 PM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Paulie

There are at least 22 or 23 rites in the Catholic Church. Most are Eastern who are united with Rome.


24 posted on 01/22/2018 3:41:39 PM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5W)
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To: Paulie

I have asked a married priest, who was grandfathered into the Catholic priesthood, speak at our Serra Club. Most interesting.

And you are correct about the Eastern Rite Churches. If they are NOT married, however, they can be ordained a Bishop.


25 posted on 01/22/2018 3:57:15 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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26 posted on 01/22/2018 4:00:27 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: MeganC

On the other hand,we don’t have the experience of celibacy, so how can we speak authoritatively about what the celibate know and don’t know?


27 posted on 01/23/2018 6:16:03 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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To: MeganC

Yeah. I don’t think a book on marital advice has a lot of credibility coming from an order that eschews marriage


28 posted on 01/23/2018 6:47:00 AM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Paulie

My son is training to be a pastor. He is at the end ofv4 years of seminary including a year serving a congregation as a vicar. His wife has been a pillar of support for him through the process and an integral part of the congregation they served. She enriches his ministry not distracts from it. Catholics can have unmarried clergy if they want but saying marriage distracts from ministry age vice versa doesn’t fly


29 posted on 01/23/2018 6:53:42 AM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Mom MD

There are always exceptions, Mom, although it doesn’t sound like your son is a Catholic Priest.

I’m referring to real men of God; those who pledge their entire being to God Almighty.

by definition your son will be sharing that commitment between the family and the things of this world. Just wait until the kids come.

What I state most certainly does fly. I suggest you do some research beyond your own small world so that you know what you’re talking about.


30 posted on 01/23/2018 7:53:29 AM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Paulie

How dare you. My son is a real Man of God far more than your pedophile priests who devote their lives to molesting children in their care


31 posted on 01/23/2018 8:11:53 AM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: MeganC

But even if a clergyman is married, he’s married to only one woman. That doesn’t give a particularly broad experience of being married to women. Maybe clergymen should be polygamists to qualify on giving advice to married couples.

Do you know what it’s like to be married to an abuser? Assuming the answer is no, you still know a good bit about it, how to avoid it, how to end it. If you are a professional who is trained and deals with abuse, you don’t have to be in an abusive marriage to be able to help an give advice, now, do you?


32 posted on 01/23/2018 1:53:48 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Mom MD

It seems your feelings got hurt.

But it’s better for heretics know the truth, rather than live their life in darkness. Can’t be salt and light to the world like that.

So take heart and remember: ignorance is not a sin...staying that way is.


33 posted on 01/23/2018 3:01:30 PM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Paulie

I’m sure but you can be forgiven so take heart . Your ignorance can be cured as well if you wish. My feelings are not hurt but I will not let someone smear the commitment my son has made. And by the way my husband is a man of God who shines the light of Christ into others lives without being clergy. Some of your priests may even be men of God but their marital status has nothing to do with it.


34 posted on 01/23/2018 3:20:04 PM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Salvation

Wow... fascinating chart. Thanks!


35 posted on 01/23/2018 3:23:51 PM PST by nutmeg (#ReleaseTheMemo)
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To: Mom MD

Think we should bury the hatchet; we are both born from above (born again) believers in Christ, are we not?

Incidentally, I really never meant to disrespect your son (or you for that matter); this was only about my observations of how the proper role of a Catholic Priest is not compatible with the married life, especially when children become part of the mix.

I do admire, often watch, and have learned much from married evangelists such as Charles Stanley, Billy and Franklin Graham, and others that I have read in books. Yes, they are truly men of God.

I think I was out of line with you. That is unacceptable, particularly since you are obviously a woman of God, and your family has followed your example.

Yours in Christ,


36 posted on 01/24/2018 5:37:03 AM PST by Paulie (America without Christ is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Mad Dawg

“On the other hand,we don’t have the experience of celibacy”

Piss off your wife and you will.

(-;


37 posted on 01/24/2018 8:42:25 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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