Posted on 12/16/2017 1:02:22 PM PST by metmom
"Thou, Lord, in the beginning didst lay a foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the works of Thy hands; they will perish, but Thou remainest; and they all will become old as a garment. And as a mantle Thou wilt roll them up; as a garment they will also be changed. But Thou art the same, and Thy years will not come to an end" (Heb. 1:10-12).
Christ existed before the beginning of the world; thus He is without beginning.
Jesus Christ is no creature. To be able to lay the foundation of the earth and create the heavens in the beginning implies that He must have existed before the beginning. The apostle John testified to this when he said, "In the beginning was the Word" (John 1:1). Christ is eternal.
Jesus is also immutable, which means He never changes. Hebrews 13:8 says, "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today, yes and forever." We need to hang onto this truth as we approach a day when much of what we know will change drastically.
One day what looks so permanent will fold up. Like the people Peter warned, we are tempted to think that "all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation" (2 Pet. 3:4). But Hebrews 1:11 tells us that one day Jesus will discard the heavens and the earth, just as we would a useless garment.
Even more amazing, verse 12 specifies that Christ will roll up the heavens. Revelation 6:14 says, "The sky was split apart like a scroll when it is rolled up; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places." During the time of the tribulation, the heavens, as if stretched to all corners, will roll right up like a scroll.
But we can be confident that although creation will perish, Jesus will not, and He will create a new heaven and a new earth. Living creatures, worlds, and stars are subject to decay, but not Christ. He never changes and is never subject to change. What confidence that should give us for the daily issues of life we face each day!
Suggestion for Prayer
Thank the Lord for His unchanging plan for your life and His ability to keep it.
For Future Study
Read 2 Peter 3 and develop an approach to answering charges unbelievers make about biblical prophecies regarding the end times.
Studying God’s Word ping
“Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today, yes and forever.”
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Jesus Christ — One Person, two natures.
“Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today, yes and forever.”
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Jesus Christ — One Person, two natures.
An appeal to these Scriptures would have eliminated the Council's decree of "Mother of God".
Sadly, Roman Catholicism has misappropriated the decree of the Council and has veered off into substantial error as a result.
Where I am, the Iglesia ni Cristo runs rampant. They are militantly opposed to the deity of Christ. I don’t quite know why, but they harp on it all the time. They say “in the beginning was the word.” They say the word was just a thought in God’s mind. I always tell them that is pure bunk. I also believe one can not be saved, unless one acknowledges the deity of Christ.
The Iglesia ni Cristo (church of Christ) says He never claimed deity. Once again, I tell them that is bunk. Someone who reads the New Testament, and then says Jesus never claimed deity, is like one who stands outside at high noon, and tells me the sun isn’t shining. It’s just bunk. Too many false religions in the world.
“Christ existed before the beginning of the world; thus He is without beginning.”
A stretch in light of the truth of God. Indeed, a fabrication.
Re 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending.
“Jesus Christ is no creature.”
Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
“Christ is eternal.”
I doubt a passage anywhere in scripture affirms that as truth.
Immortal? Yes. Beyond corruption? Yes. Glorified with the glory He had with His Father in the beginning of His creation? Not yet.
The Logos of God, the Word, the Expression of God, came forth out of God. It was not God.
Jn 8:42 Jesus, then, said to them, “If God were your Father, you would have loved Me. For out(Gk en,out) of God I came forth and am arriving. For neither have I come of Myself, but He commissions Me.
God does not need a commission from God, and Jesus Christ is a man, not God. God is not a man. This the scriptures testify to as the truth.
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Sorry bro, I don’t buy your theology. You sound just like Felix Y Manalo. Are you in the Iglesia ni Cristo?
“I doubt a passage anywhere in scripture affirms that as truth.
“Did God really say...
Satan, you’re back!
Actually, the Greek of this statement supports His eternal existence, both past and future.
Also, it helps if you post the verse in context.
8“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” Rev 1:8 NASB
Here's a little missive that might help reason it out, without trying to nail it down as if holding God to some picked over phrase; this is the way Jesus explained it to the disciples, Bro: https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3612062/posts?page=38#38
Denial that Christ is God & the Gospel of grace, are Satan's Fashion show.
Every few years recycled in a new way to keep people from the truth.
Since there is nothing new under the sun, I wonder what this false doctrine, of denying the deity of Christ, was called a thousand years ago? Do you think it might have a bit of Gnosticism mixed in with it? I just don’t know.
Metmom you speak.of Jesus as s if his last name is Christ.
Christ means annoited one, Jesus was annoited by the holy
spirit. So he should be called Jesus the Christ or Jesus
the annoited one.
Also the Bible is a very good source for information on the
birth of Jesus, I believe that is when Jesus was called Jesus,
it is believed to have been from 7 BC to 4BC. not quite
eternal.
Sorry metmom, I should have said John macaruther.
John 8:58. Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. How do you interpret that.
John 14:8-13 Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works. Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me, or else believe on account of the works themselves.
There is verses that will seemingly prove anything you
want to prove, I can see your point but I can see the
other points also.
Jesus is the Christ his name is not Jesus christ so maybe
there is some confusion there, I have to admit the only
thing I am pretty sure of is that the flesh and blood
Birth of jesus is recorded In scripture.
So he could not have been here from the beginning, his spirit
well that is a different story.
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