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HOW AMERICAN JEWS ADOPTED—AND ADAPTED—THANKSGIVING
Tablet ^ | November 22, 2017 | Jenna Weissman Joselit

Posted on 11/23/2017 8:44:28 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian

No sooner had it become a national holiday than America’s Jews took to its growing repertoire of rituals with gusto. Thanksgiving was a day in which “all classes and masses participated and delivered the same Yankee Doodle with slight variations,” observed one San Francisco Jew in 1884. Much like their neighbors, America’s Jewish citizens prepared a sumptuous repast at home and saw to it that the underprivileged among them, especially those of their coreligionists in orphanages and old-age homes, were treated to a turkey with all the trimmings. [snip]

Focusing on what they had in common rather than on the “doctrinal points” that kept them apart and at arm’s length from one another, America’s clergy and congregants alike seized the opportunity to strengthen the bonds of neighborliness and to “set the seal of religion upon [their] patriotic emotions.” In the process, they also sought to demonstrate that the “national religion is not Christianity—but whatever each American professes for himself,” or so optimistically related the Jewish Messenger in 1873. [snip]

Divine services and official proclamations were one thing; festive meals quite another. When it came to feeding one’s stomach on national turkey day, there was no declension, no “backsliders here—full attendance everywhere.” Even the most scrupulous of kosher-keeping American Jews could enjoy a heaping portion of turkey and spoonfuls of cranberry sauce, the recipes for which filled the pages of Jewish newspapers of the late 19th century. True, mashed potatoes might be out of bounds because of the cream and butter used to make them fluffy, and oyster stuffing was clearly a no-go, but tasty substitutes that in no way compromised the traditional bill of fare were at hand and within easy reach on the dinner table.

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TOPICS: Ecumenism; Judaism; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: jews; judaism; thanksgiving
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To: avital2

Rice milk can work. Thanks.


21 posted on 11/24/2017 3:23:28 AM PST by CodeToad (CWII is coming. Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

When I had my nails done earlier in the week, I asked the Vietnamese immigrant manicurists what they were doing and preparing for the holiday. Both said: turkey, mashed potatoes, canned yams and green bean casserole! Naturally, I thought they would have adopted their Vietnamese diet to the holiday, but no, those jolly gals wanted their American eats like the rest of us. Hope everyone had a joyous holiday.


22 posted on 11/24/2017 4:04:57 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Yardstick

You can’t mix meat and dairy in a kosher household.

You can make mashed potatoes with olive oil, though. Or just delicious smashed potatoes.


23 posted on 11/24/2017 4:07:49 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Yaelle

Happy Thanksgiving, Yaelle.


24 posted on 11/24/2017 4:08:17 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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25 posted on 11/24/2017 4:09:12 AM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: avital2

Besides, what are mashed potatoes without a ton of gravy?


26 posted on 11/24/2017 4:36:01 AM PST by FrdmLvr (“What Happened you ask?...Ma’am, you got your ass kicked.” Bannon)
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To: CodeToad

and soy milk.

https://www.thespruce.com/dairy-free-mashed-potatoes-2122384


27 posted on 11/24/2017 4:50:11 AM PST by avital2
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Joyous Thanksgiving and the rest of the weekend right back atcha, bro.

And for December, Oy to the World.


28 posted on 11/24/2017 4:59:09 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: 9YearLurker

Okay, got it. I was thinking of just the mashed potatoes and not the combo with meat on the plate.


29 posted on 11/24/2017 5:52:16 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Jamestown1630

“I know latkes are traditionally for Hanukkah, but that’s my favorite Jewish dish ;-)”

Well, yeah. (Said in my teenage daughters vouce.)


30 posted on 11/24/2017 7:59:25 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Yardstick

Because meat is also being served. Mashed potatoes with fish, for example m, would be fine.

Relates back to a rejection of the Canaanite ritual of boiling the young of animals alive ( including human babies) in the milk of their mother.

Going deeper, the reason such practices are so offensive are because it uses something that should be giving life (milk) to cause death.


31 posted on 11/24/2017 8:04:02 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: CodeToad

Brush and floss and wait 30 minutes.

See above post for theological explanation.


32 posted on 11/24/2017 8:06:03 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
#5. That’s for Christmas!

lol. Yes, that's right.

33 posted on 11/24/2017 8:25:40 AM PST by Fido969 (In!)
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To: Yardstick
How are cream and butter not kosher in mashed potatoes?

Orthodox Jews don't eat meat with dairy. So cream and butter in mashed potatoes are fine, but not with turkey.

34 posted on 11/24/2017 8:32:42 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

I like the latkes with sour cream best; but applesauce works, too.


35 posted on 11/24/2017 8:42:31 AM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: miss marmelstein

Belated Happy Thanksgiving to you, Miss M!


36 posted on 11/24/2017 10:13:04 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Hope you had a happy. We did!


37 posted on 11/24/2017 10:48:53 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Yes we did! Great food, tons of leftovers, and we played games all evening. I’m sure you had great showbiz conversations!! Hopefully only 12% about errant penises!!! ;)


38 posted on 11/24/2017 11:24:39 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

That sounds like a lot of family fun! We ended up talking about John Wayne and John Ford as we always do for some reason. Took shots at Weinstein, of course. The restaurant gave everyone a “leftover” turkey sandwich to take home after dinner. I thought that was so cute.


39 posted on 11/24/2017 11:28:33 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Love that the restaurant did that!

John Ford’s Palm Desert Home was next door to my grandparents’ home on Old Prospector Trail. :)


40 posted on 11/24/2017 11:42:24 AM PST by Yaelle
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