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Cath Cauc: Pontifical Gregorian University Hosts Series of Talks to Take New Look at Humanae Vitae
National Catholic Register ^
| October 21, 2017
| Edward Pentin
Posted on 10/21/2017 8:29:59 AM PDT by ebb tide
Pontifical Gregorian University Hosts Series of Talks to Take New Look at Humanae Vitae
Organizers say the aim is to take a new and broad look at the encyclical in the context of a time of change and because difficulties have become more complex.
The Pontifical Gregorian University in Rome is hosting a series of talks from October until May aimed at considering the transformations, needs and hopes of the family 50 years after Humanae Vitae.
(Excerpt) Read more at ncregister.com ...
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: francischurch; humanaevitae; jesuits
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posted on
10/21/2017 8:29:59 AM PDT
by
ebb tide
To: ebb tide
So is Francis going to repeal Humanae Vitae?
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posted on
10/21/2017 8:33:37 AM PDT
by
arthurus
To: arthurus
To: ebb tide
Transforming the Catholic Church into a watered-down version? No thanks. Why would anyone join the Catholic Church if they can go to the local humanist meeting house cleverly disguised as a church.
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posted on
10/21/2017 9:06:57 AM PDT
by
I want the USA back
(The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
To: ebb tide
This is putting it crudely — or, at least, inelegantly — but the Church's ban on birth control is like the speed limit. If the speed limit on local roads is, say, 30 mph, many people may go 35-40 mph, but only drunks and jerks will go 50-60 mph in a 30mph zone because driving that far above the speed limit obviously would be dangerous for everyone. However, if you were to argue, “Well, people drive about 40mph in 30mph zones because 30mph is too strict, so let's just be “honest” and “fair” and “sympathetic” and raise the speed limit to 40mph, do people really think everyone who used to go 35-40mph would stick with 40mph? No way! Now, most people would go 45-50mph, and the drunks and jerks would go 60-70 mph.
I realize that the above isn't the way the Church argues its position, but I believe it describes the practical benefits to the HV teaching. Over the last fifty years, there have bene many good Catholic couples who have done their best, waited until marriage to have sex, and had large families. They may have not been able to keep to the letter of the law on birth control, but they didn't necessarily claim they were “right” in breaking the rules. In addition, what they did manage to do, which they learned from HV, is to avoid methods of birth control that would actually allow conception (e.g., IUDs and some forms of the Pill), never choose abortion when barrier methods fail, and not get sterilized. If softening HV means allowing barrier methods — I don't see how the Church EVER could permit IUDs or sterilization, never mind abortion — all we'll see is people who otherwise would have avoided abortiofacients choosing those, many more being sterilized, and even some more having abortions.
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posted on
10/21/2017 9:29:35 AM PDT
by
utahagen
(but but n the nomionaiton.)
To: utahagen
Even if you aren’t sure if killing an unborn baby is murder, it’s like throwing a hand grenade out a window not knowing if somebody is out there to be killed by it.
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posted on
10/21/2017 9:40:23 AM PDT
by
E. Pluribus Unum
(You can't have totalitarian globalist government if the peasants are armed.)
To: E. Pluribus Unum
Well, of course killing an unborn baby is murder! The people who want to “re-evaluate” HV want to do, I believe, is soften the ban against non-abortiofacient contraceptives. However, as I explained in my post, the ban on contraception is like the speed limit” raise the speed limit and ALL drivers will go drive proportionally faster.
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posted on
10/21/2017 9:44:58 AM PDT
by
utahagen
(but but n the nomionaiton.)
To: ebb tide
It’s coming........the modernists are firmly in control.
To: ebb tide
While I am one that can find a few things to quibble about, fundamentally the RCC is the leading light 💡 today teaching moral values in this increasingly-degenerate, pagan society. I very much hope the Church can de-wolf its clerical ranks and that it will continue to teach positive morals theyre needed more then ever today. ( and as others have noted, theres no reason to even attend a paganized transformed church without morals it would be like buying a Big Mac without any beef inside)
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posted on
10/21/2017 10:34:34 AM PDT
by
faithhopecharity
("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
To: utahagen
A Catholic cannot compare going 5 mph over a speed limit with the mortal sin of artificial contraception.
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posted on
10/21/2017 11:09:52 AM PDT
by
ebb tide
(We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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