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[Catholic Caucus] FR. JAMES MARTIN: EX-GAYS DON’T LEAD FULLY ‘INTEGRATED LIFE’
Church Militant ^ | September 23, 2017 | Christine Niles

Posted on 09/23/2017 3:12:34 PM PDT by ebb tide

Jesuit Fr. James Martin, well-known for his attempts to normalize homosexuality in the Church, claims ex-gays lead a less "integrated life" than current gays.

In an August 29 interview with Brandon Ambrosino, a gay man engaged to his male partner, Martin said:

I know just for the record that a lot of the people who are critiquing me online are self-professed ... former gays. So it's a lot of former gay people. And I would say that there's a lot of conflict going on. So it's sad because what happens is their own junk inside gets focused outwards on people who are actually trying to live a more integrated life.

In the same interview, the priest praised Ambrosino's sexually active gay partnership: "Your love is beautiful."

As Joseph Sciambra, a man who left the homosexual lifestyle, remarked, "James Martin is quick to say 'I'm not a moral theologian,' but he apparently is a psychiatrist specializing in homosexuality."

Martin has made the claim that he's no "moral theologian" in response to criticism that he refuses to discuss the need for chastity, particularly in his latest book Building a Bridge.

"I am no moral theologian and did not want to enter into a discussion about church teaching on sexual activity," he said.

A decade ago, video testimonials of those "coming out of the closet" exploded on YouTube. Today, a query for "ex-gay" yields an astonishing number of former homosexuals who have gone on to recapture a healthy, heterosexual orientation. In fact, thousands of men and women have reported successfully leaving the homosexual lifestyle, many going on to marry and have families. Groups like PFOX (Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays) and Voices of Change document such experiences.

Voice of the Voiceless is a group that advocates on behalf of former homosexuals, even joining a massive federal complaint filed against the LGBT lobby claiming fraud for perpetuating the "born gay" myth — a myth that Fr. Martin promotes.

The late Dr. Joseph Nicolosi, a pioneer in gay reparative therapy, which helps those afflicted with same-sex attraction eliminate or diminish homosexual desires, said, "Homosexuality is not a sexual problem. It is a gender identity problem."

  "Homosexuality is not about sex," Nicolosi explained. "It is about a person's sense of himself, about his relationships, how he forms and establishes relationships, his self-identity, his self-image, personal shame, his ability to sustain intimacy."

  "Homosexual behavior is always prompted by an inner sense of emptiness," he added.

At his passing, Nicolosi was working on a project to disprove the thesis

 that reparative therapy is harmful. In 2016, he and Dr. Carolyn Pela presented results of an ongoing study showing that reparative therapy actually reduced stress and contributed to the client's overall emotional and physical well-being — contrary to gay activists' claims.

"Findings from preliminary data collected over a 12-month period indicated statistically significant reductions in distress and improvements in well-being, significant movement toward heterosexual identity, and significant increases in heterosexual thoughts and desires with accompanying significant decreases in homosexual thoughts and desires," he summarized.

In the same Ambrosino interview, Martin said lifelong celibacy is not required of homosexuals. Martin proffered the protestant notion that only those teachings "received" by Catholics are authoritative, and because the requirement of celibacy has not been "received" by the LGBT community, therefore it is not authoritative.

"For a teaching to be really authoritative," he claimed, "it is expected that it will be received by the people of God, by the faithful."

"The teaching that LGBT people must be celibate their entire lives has not been received," he said. 

As canonist Ed Peters noted

Martin might regret that, in virtue of Canon 1055 (which presents the nature of marriage itself), two lesbians cannot marry each other, nor can two homosexuals, but, if that is what underlies Martin's complaints about celibacy supposedly being imposed on such persons, he needs to take it up with the infallible Magisterium of the Church.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: francischurch; homos; jesuits; martin

1 posted on 09/23/2017 3:12:35 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

This abomination has as much business being a priest as Barney Frank or Hillary Clinton.


2 posted on 09/23/2017 3:17:33 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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Chicago cardinal extends invite to Fr. Martin amid cancellations

Cupich, of course, is one of Bergoglio's new franciscardinals.

3 posted on 09/23/2017 3:17:53 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
Oh, yes, their love is beautiful: especially when accompanied by Hepatitis B, HIV, full-blown AIDs, syphilis, crabs, throat cancer, colon cancer, alcoholism, drug-taking...just a thing of beauty, Father!
4 posted on 09/23/2017 3:18:38 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: ebb tide

You cannot walk on water, and you cannot normalize the abnormal.


5 posted on 09/23/2017 3:19:41 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: miss marmelstein

You left out rectal prolapse. That’s a beaut.


6 posted on 09/23/2017 3:30:28 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

The exile of Christianity from the Law of God: The Torah has come home to roost. Read Psalm 119; either the Law of the Lord is perfect or it is not. Sexual perversion brings death. Lev. 18:23 & 20:13 are unequivocal. Those who engage in it are to be put to death. Period. Violate this law, as a Society, and the whole Society will be put to death. Death! God is not mocked. His Torah undergirds all the laws of Physics. Man must repent and return to Him who made him and gives him his next breath. Or die.


7 posted on 09/23/2017 3:30:35 PM PDT by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees)
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To: ebb tide
Martin has made the claim that he's no "moral theologian"

The first true thing he's said in the whole discussion. He's an immoral theologian who also lacks specialization in moral theology.

8 posted on 09/23/2017 3:35:33 PM PDT by GCC Catholic (Trump doesn't suffer fools, but fools will suffer Trump. Make America Great Again!)
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To: GCC Catholic

Martin is a special kind of evil. The biblical wolf in sheep’s clothing.


9 posted on 09/23/2017 3:44:12 PM PDT by littleharbour
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To: ebb tide

Of course they don’t. And shouldn’t. Society should shun them for being perverts.


10 posted on 09/23/2017 4:08:48 PM PDT by IronJack (sh)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

TMI,lol!


11 posted on 09/23/2017 5:15:53 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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