Screen capture of end of Fr. Martin's Facebook post, Sept. 20, 2017 Posted on 09/20/2017 7:00:25 PM PDT by ebb tide
Father James Martin seems to be implying that the Blessed Mother was a lesbian. In a Facebook tirade posted Tuesday, the pro-gay priest urged Catholics to call their local bishops to complain about so-called hate groups like Church Militant in order to silence them, closing his exhortation by referring to the Holy Spirit as "She."
"Hope in the Holy Spirit," Martin wrote. "Things can always improve. And the Holy Spirit knows what She's doing."
Screen capture of end of Fr. Martin's Facebook post, Sept. 20, 2017
The Holy Spirit is traditionally known as the Spouse of Mary. The angel Gabriel announced to Our Lady in Luke 1:35:
The Holy Spirit will come upon you,
and the power of the Most High will overshadow you;
therefore the child to be born will be called holy,
the Son of God.
Although the concept of being Spouse to Mary is not meant to be taken literally, the phrasing still indicates a type of spiritual marriage between Our Lady and the Holy Spirit, a similar espousal to that of a consecrated nun, who refers to herself as the "spouse" of Jesus. In both cases, it's clearly a masculine-feminine spiritual union, reflected in the marriage of man and woman. Martin's deliberate reference of the Holy Spirit as "She" implies Our Lady was espoused to a female entity, a feminine-feminine union.
Pope Leo XIII spoke of this spousal relationship between Our Lady and the Holy Spirit in Divinum Illud Munus:
Let all Christian peoples add their prayers also, invoking the powerful and ever-acceptable intercession of the Blessed Virgin. You know well the intimate and wonderful relationship existing between her and the Holy Spirit, so that she is justly called His Spouse. May she continue to strengthen our prayers with her prayers.
Some argue the Holy Spirit should be referred to in the feminine because the original Hebrew word in the Old Testament, rūaḥ, is a feminine noun. But those who understand linguistics know that grammatical gender has no bearing on actual gender of the noun. The neuter Greek word pneuma is used for "spirit" in the New Testament, and in Latin (the official language of the Church) the masculine spiritus is used. Our Lord Himself referred to the Holy Spirit as paraclete, using the Greek word parakletos, a masculine noun.
Additionally, St. John uses the masculine pronoun in reference to the Holy Spirit, even though he is referring to the Greek neuter pneuma, indicating his deliberate choice to refer to the Spirit as "He" rather than "It." In short, there is simply no scriptural or historical or theological precedent to refer to the Holy Spirit as "She."
Add to that the fact that the Holy Trinity, though three distinct Persons, is One, and is always referred to in the masculine. The Holy Spirit reveals the Father and the Son, and all three Persons are One God. Thus the Holy Spirit has always been referred to in the masculine by the Church. The Church has never referred to the Holy Spirit in the feminine.
Viewed in this context, Fr. Martin's choice to refer to the Holy Spirit in the feminine has far-reaching implications. Considering his heavy promotion of gay ideology to the exclusion of nearly anything else — including his recent claim that celibacy for LGBT people is not an authoritative teaching of the Church, or that Catholics should "reverence" gay unions — it would hardly be surprising if Martin is subtly furthering his agenda by insinuating the blasphemous notion that Our Lady — espoused to a "female" Holy Spirit — is a lesbian.
What is with this guy? Is he a mere leftist lunatic, or is he another minion of the anti-Christ like his boss, Frankie is?
I read the earlier FR thread about how he says priests don’t have to be celibate if they are homos.
And was disgusted by both.
Sorry but the Jesuit order has devolved into a cabal of decadent homosexuals.It was not surprising when faux Catholic Jesuit Georgetown covered Catholic symbols so that the vile, pro abortion homosexual Obama would feel “comfortable” to speak there. No sane parent should trust their young son to their tutelage. James Martin,S.J. is their poster boy. Not one Jesuit has spoken against him.
It is at moments like this that I admire how Sharia deals with heresy/apostasy. beheading is the usual punishment. sounds fit for this moron.
This guy is no priest.
Blasphemy. The only word I could think of.
vs.
Hail Mary, Full of Grace
In the OT, particularly in Proverbs Wisdom is portrayed as femimine, a belief that also appears in Greek Athena and Roman Minerva. But the Nicene Creed specifically refers to the Holy Spirit as the masculine Lord. This particular Jebbie is wackier than most in my experience, though not by much. But I would not be adverse to a feminine Holy Spirit.
I missed that one. First time I’ve read that he said that. How does the Church get rid of priests who are minions of Satan?
Georgetown covered Catholic symbols so Obama’nation would feel comfortable? How could he deny cries he’s a Muslim after that?
I don't think they do that anymore. Now they just promote them, it seems.
Maybe not surprising if this was his intent, but I don't know that even I would take this to mean this. He's not the first to call the Holy Spirit/God a "she". I would imagine that he doesn't even teach that the Holy Spirit is espoused to Mary and may not have made that lesbian leap...at least not consciously.
Having said that, knowing Michael Voris recently came out as a homosexual, I find it interesting that his organization, Church Militant, was the one to report this.
OMG!!! DEFROCK HIM! He is saying that the Hold Spirit is a WOMAN!!!
This writing may not technically meet the definition of blasphemy, but it comes dang close. And sounds more like what one would expect from a rabid anti-Catholic rather than a priest. But then I’m just old fashioned.
Also if I am not mistaken, the title of the legendary major church building, Hagia Sophia in Istanbul, Turkey, means in Greek Holy Wisdom.
That’s just sick.
And for the record, Mr Voris admitted his homosexual life style in the past, plus it was at least hinted that there where women as well. He was a confused young soul, one who facade the gay priesthood hitting on him, specifically one of them who tried to in part ruin him when he brought it to light, fortunately he had a big alumni who could vouch for him against the priest, and then the matter against Voris quietly went away. Voris has turned away from that lifestyle of sin largely in part because of his mother's sacrifice. Thus far there is nothing to suggest that he has returned, especially when considering how much he is hitting back against the homo mafia in the church.
I know that Church teaching is that the Holy Spirit is masculine. I was merely saying that others have called the Holy Spirit/God "she" before...not that it was okay to do so. So what "Father" Martin is saying doesn't necessarily have to mean that he also thinks Mary is a lesbian.
As for Michael Voris, I am not saying that he is an active homosexual again. However, I do think that there seems to be a focus on homosexuality at Church Militant....probably because of his past.
Now, is it possible that Martin believes Our Lady was a lesbian? Yes. However, I also happen to think that the Church Militant author, Christine Niles, really has no proof that this is in fact what he believes. Therefore, I question whether it was prudent for her to write such scandalous, offensive comments.
If my first post was unclear, I hope that this one clarified things.
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