Posted on 07/18/2017 7:28:48 AM PDT by amessenger4god
The Bible repeatedly states that simple belief in Christ is sufficient for salvation because Christ satisfied all the necessary requirements through His atoning sacrifice. Through faith in Him we have entered into a permanent Sabbath and have rested from our works (Hebrews 3-4).
Though it is through faith alone in Christ alone that we are reconciled to God, we have to be very careful to recognize the Christ to whom we refer. There are many people named Jesus and many who have been called Christ, but there is only one Jesus Christ with the power to save you. Many who believe they are following Jesus will one day come face to face with the reality that they never knew the only Jesus who could save them (Matthew 7:21-23).
This is where Christians are called to be most discerning because there are two kinds of people who will not inherit eternal life: those who do not believe in Jesus and those who believe in a Jesus not found in the Bible. People argue endlessly about Jesus' Name. Is it Yeshua? Yehoshua? Iesous? Is it ok to just call Him Jesus? There are thousands of languages and Jesus is called by hundreds, even thousands of names, but the real concern is not by which name you call Him, but to which Jesus you refer:
Muslim Jesus
This Jesus, also called Isa, can be found in the Quran. He is praised and held in high esteem by many Muslims. He's even called the Messiah. That's close enough, right? Unfortunately this isn't the same Jesus that Christians know. The Muslim Jesus was tortured on a cross, but he didn't die and went on to recover from his wounds. He didn't rise from the dead and didn't atone for mankind's sins and therefore doesn't have any power to save you. He's also subservient to the false prophet Mohammed.
And having brought them out, he was saying, 'Sirs, what is necessary of me to do, that I may be saved?'
And they said, 'Believe on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, you and your household.'
I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: Im ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I dont accept his claim to be God. That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.
How could one be chosen by G-d if he is god?
That’s like a rigged vote.
The one that adhered to The Law.
Could G-d choose another to be Himself? Who else would He select to be Himself than Himself. Rigged? Certainly!
The Bible says the demons believe, and tremble.
When Jesus said, “unless you eat My body and drink My blood, you have no life within you”, and many of his disciples said, “this is a hard saying” and no longer followed Him, and He turned to His apostles and said, “Will you leave Me also?”, (not, “come back, it’s just a symbol”), I believe Him.
Jesus, the Second Person of the Holy Trinity.
Father, Son and Holy Spirit
Sort of unsettles me a bit with regard to cannibalism.
Sorry.
The Jesus that handed down the Law on Mt Sinai would NOT command men to break the very Law that He came to fulfill.
He told us to break bread and drink wine in remembrance of His death and resurrection and in anticipation of His coming again.
It’s a clarification of the Passover meal which was also symbolic and the blood was NOT consumed.
Thank you.
https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/John-1-1/
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Another gospel, referred to especially in Galatians, is a "gospel that turns believers away from the gospel of the "grace of God" - mixing the law with grace (ie, turning people away from the righteous of God by faith without the works of the law, to a righteousness that requires works). This false gospel carries a double curse in Galatians Chapter One.
Jesus talked false Christs generally in reference to the end times when people will begin to say "Here is Christ, or"Come here, Christ is over here". It a the false claim that Christ has already returned and is bodily among us. Jesus said you will know this is a lie because Christ will not return to the earth in secret. Jesus said when he, the real Christ, returns to earth, the whole world will see it "as lightning that flashes in the east even to the west."
It appears the author is implying the Sabbath should not be kept.
Interestingly, that's the only point of the Law the antinomians seem to focus on. Never do they say, "The Law has been abolished, rob a bank" or the like; they acknowledge murder is wrong even though that is part of the Law. They need to reconcile the inconsistency.
You are not the only one. Scripture itself tells us that it is a hard saying. We have three options:
Do not believe and turn away from Jesus, as many of His disciples did.
Believe in Jesus but not His hard saying, interpreting it as a metaphor.
Believe in the Holy One of God and trust His words of eternal life, as the Apostles did.
amessenger4god said...”The Bible repeatedly states that simple belief in Christ is sufficient for salvation because Christ satisfied all the necessary requirements through His atoning sacrifice. Through faith in Him we have entered into a permanent Sabbath and have rested from our works (Hebrews 3-4).”
amessenger4god...you need to use your Strongs and look up “believeth” from John 3:16. You will see simple belief is not what the greek “pisteuo” means. Yeshua (his real name in His spoken language) lived out the Law. By fulfilling the Law He did not nullify it He gave us an example of how to live by Gods Law and not mans, like the Jewish man made laws. We are to use Him as our example.
As far as Hebrews 3-4, I think you meant 4-3. To understand WHEN you enter this rest read all the way down to verse 10. You will enter this rest AFTER you have ceased from your own works as God did from His after 6 days. Have you ceased from your own works? Does every single thing you do glorify your creator? Do you sin? If you answered yes to the last 2 questions you have not ceased from your own works and you have not entered into the “rest” spoken of in Hebrews. Your rest is assured after this temporal life is completed.
Blessings
Is there any reason it can’t be both at the same time?
Not like Catholic transubstantiation that removes the entirety of the bread and wine.
I dunno, it just seems like the simplest answer to reconcile all the different references in Scripture, and not just because I took an oath to uphold the Lutheran understanding of the Lord’s Supper.
Informative, but because I’m feeling silly, let me add this.
Other Jesuses that they didn’t put into the article.
Black Jesus.
Bald Jesus.
Female Jesus.
Emo Jesus.
Millennial Jesus.
Vampire Jesus.
Cheeses Jesus.
I seem to recall...
Jesus Christ is Gods Son, spiritually and physically. He calls Him Father, He prays to Him. Santorum endorses one-time rival Romney
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25 When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, Rabbi, when did you get here?
26 Jesus answered, Very truly I tell you, you are looking for me, not because you saw the signs I performed but because you ate the loaves and had your fill. 27 Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval.
28 Then they asked him, What must we do to do the works God requires?
29 Jesus answered, The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.
30 So they asked him, What sign then will you give that we may see it and believe you? What will you do? 31 Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written: He gave them bread from heaven to eat.[c]
32 Jesus said to them, Very truly I tell you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.
34 Sir, they said, always give us this bread.
35 Then Jesus declared, I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37 All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Fathers will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.
How ELSE can a rationally thinking person view it>
HE was hold some bread and said, "This is my body..." when CLEARLY it was NOT His body; as He happened to be USING it at the time!
MARY (remember her?) gave the FLESH that the Second Person of the Trinity used during His stay on earth.
John 1:14
The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
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