Do you think anyone would waste their time with AA if it didn’t consider drunks to be “intrinsically disordered” people?
Do you think anyone would waste their time with AA if it didn’t consider drunks to be “intrinsically disordered” people?
Do you think anyone would waste their time with AA if it didn’t consider drunks to be “intrinsically disordered” people?
The”Gays and Grays” sums it up. This community is dying out. The grays are no doubt nice people, their children have moved away and time marches relentlessly on, as it does for us all. The gays are caught up in a lifestyle that is killing them and if they are consistent, will have no children. So this is prime real estate for the Mexicans or the Chicoms to take over in just a few years.
Maybe if the Catholic Church began addressing the SIN of homosexual activity, they would find a common ground with God and each other.
From Father Joseph Martin to Father James Martin.......
What a long strange trip it’s been.
Sure, you just need a good civil engineer.
Ok. I’ll analyze the garbage above.
“…welcome strangers into our midst.”
Sinners are not strangers and are familiar.
“…those who are on distant shores.”
How polite. Again, sinners are not on distant shores. They are just on the path to hell.
“…people we consider to be different.”
Yes, sinners and people in the state of grace are different.
“…some courageous bishops and Cardinals of the Church.”
Nero in early Rome was gay and he killed courageous bishops.
“The very fact that this topic was being discussed so openly is a change from previous synodal discussions.”
Bandwagon. No, not everyone is gay, Fr. Rosica. Only 1% of the population.
“No matter how well-intentioned scholastic theology tries to describe the human condition…”
Only a non-Catholic hates scholasticisim. Scholastic philosophy makes it clear that sin is the contrary opposite of the state of grace.
“Serbs, Native Peoples, gay persons…”
Notice the trick, making it sound like gays belong to a race of people. Scholastic fact: gender is interior (hormones) and race is exterior (skin color). Gender and race are contrary opposites. Rosica is a fool.
“There is no fear in love.” There is no love and only fear when getting stalked by aggressive gay men in San Francisco, West Hollywood and Palm Springs. Ask any tourist.
Moral of the story. Rosica shows his true colors: anti-Catholic and vicious.
Yes, we need to build bridges but it is not between the “LGBT community” and rigorous church but between the personal sinner and God. The Church has always been that bridge, with loving care calling the sinner to repentance and obedience to the will of God. What a horrible tragedy it would be if we withheld the truth and made the active homosexual feel welcomed in the pew but thus hardened his heart to remain in his sin and reject God’s welcome to him in heaven.
1 Peter 4:18
And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
Mathew 22
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
Romans 1
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
No one has to even read the Bible to know that homosexuality is wrong and is an abomination against The God that made us.
It plainly tells us that it is not natural.
Should some one try to convert them?
If their natural instinct does not tell them why would they believe me?
And besides, if only a few are chosen why should it be any of them, when i don`t even know for a fact that i will be chosen.
Anyone who reads 18 thru 28 can see that Paul did not believe those people would be saved.
With all those darned unions and evironazis it’s getting harder to build ANYTHING, bridges included!