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Francis: Property is theft and Socialism is the answer...[Catholic Caucus]
La Salette Journey ^ | June 13, 2017 | Paul Anthony Melanson

Posted on 06/19/2017 7:57:28 AM PDT by ebb tide

Francis: Property is theft and Socialism is the answer...

Robert P. Barnidge noted that, "Pope Francis has made his social and economic tendencies clear since the early days of his pontificate. In his 2013 apostolic exhortation, Evangelii Gaudium, Pope Francis criticizes the notion that reducing the disproportionately-high income tax burden on high-income earners can stimulate investment and economic growth as a 'crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system. For the Holy Father, inequality is the 'root of social ills,' though he fails to explain precisely why a society of unequal wealth but a relatively high standard of living would somehow be less reflective of Gospel values than a society that shares equally in poverty.

Going further still, Evangelii Gaudium calls for structural transformation that would 'restore to the poor what belongs to them.' If, as Pope Francis suggests, property is possessed not by its owners, then, truly, 'property is theft,' to quote 19th-century French anarchist Pierre-Joseph Proudhon’s famous phrase."

Contrast this embrace of Socialism with the thought of Pope Saint John Paul II:

“…the fundamental error of socialism is anthropological in nature. Socialism considers the individual person simply as an element, a molecule within the social organism, so that the good of the individual is completely subordinated to the functioning of the socio-economic mechanism. Socialism likewise maintains that the good of the individual is completely subordinated to the functioning of the socio-economic mechanism. Socialism likewise maintains that the good of the individual can be realized without reference to his free choice, to the unique and exclusive responsibility which he exercises in the face of good or evil. Man is thus reduced to a series of social relationships, and the concept of the person as the autonomous subject of moral decisions disappears, the very subject whose decisions build the social order.”

The Popes have consistently condemned Socialism because it is intrinsically evil.  See here.

But Francis promotes it.

If you're not concerned about Francis as a Catholic, you should be.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: francischurch; socialism
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1 posted on 06/19/2017 7:57:29 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Saw the headline, and wondered if they’d actually mention French anarchist Pierre-Joseph Proudhon. Glad they did. Interesting fellow — he also said that “Property is Justice” because Proudhon was not a systematic thinker. He was a rabble-rouser and anarchist.

Really shameful that a Pope would have thinking aligned with anything like this.


2 posted on 06/19/2017 8:00:08 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Islam: You have to just love a "religion" based on rape and sex slavery.)
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To: ebb tide

When can I collect my piece of the Vatican?


3 posted on 06/19/2017 8:01:04 AM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: ebb tide

Isn’t the Catholic Church one of the largest real estate holders and much of it tax free?


4 posted on 06/19/2017 8:04:18 AM PDT by IC Ken
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To: ebb tide
Proverbs 31

10 An excellent wife, who can find? For her worth is far above jewels.

11 The heart of her husband trusts in her, And he will have no lack of gain.

12 She does him good and not evil All the days of her life.

13 She looks for wool and flax And works with her hands in delight.

14 She is like merchant ships; She brings her food from afar.

15 She rises also while it is still night And gives food to her household And portions to her maidens.

16 She considers a field and buys it; From her earnings she plants a vineyard.

5 posted on 06/19/2017 8:04:21 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: ebb tide

Property is sacred and socialism is theft.


6 posted on 06/19/2017 8:04:26 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: ebb tide
How about... "Socialism is theft and Private Property is the Answer"...?!
7 posted on 06/19/2017 8:04:53 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Darteaus94025

Not to mention the billions held by the archdioceses and bishops living in multi-million dollar mansions ...


8 posted on 06/19/2017 8:06:03 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: pgyanke

What did anyone expect from an Argentine Socialist ?


9 posted on 06/19/2017 8:06:55 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: ebb tide

I didn’t think it was possible, but we’ve found a public figure whose understanding of economics is poorer than Bernie Sanders’.


10 posted on 06/19/2017 8:10:50 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: ebb tide

Can I get some of the paintings and sculptures the Pope is giving away?


11 posted on 06/19/2017 8:12:05 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: ebb tide

Goodness has nothing to do with it to paraphrase Mae West.

If you lower taxes you will get more production precisely because people want to keep what they produce, not give it away for the common good.


12 posted on 06/19/2017 8:16:20 AM PDT by Kenny500c
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To: ebb tide

Funny how socialists never have a problem trusting in the goodness of those in government when it comes to them having power to lord it over the people.

“All to government I surrender, all to it I freely give, I will ever fund and trust it, for its largess daily live, I surrender all, I surrender all, all to that which gives me handouts, I surrender all!”

How Government Delivers Services: http://youtu.be/g7MMo06ZeJg


13 posted on 06/19/2017 8:17:08 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: ebb tide
property is possessed not by its owners

Please explain, Francis, why the catholic church in Mexico owned nearly HALF of the land there until Benito Juarez's revolution? And, Francis, why did the church support the Cristero Revolution to try and get it back? Why doesn't anyone just tell the truth, repent of wrongdoing and make things right? Oh well....

14 posted on 06/19/2017 8:18:07 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Darteaus94025

“When can I collect my piece of the Vatican”?

I think this Pope would agree to that.


15 posted on 06/19/2017 8:24:46 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: ebb tide

***If you’re not concerned about Francis as a Catholic, you should be.***

I don’t consider Bergoglio to be a true pope. He is the false one.


16 posted on 06/19/2017 8:30:52 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: ebb tide

If anyone wants to clear their guilt from their ill gotten capitalist gains, feel free to private message me.


17 posted on 06/19/2017 8:31:11 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: ebb tide

Will no on rid us of this turbulent and apostate ‘priest?’


18 posted on 06/19/2017 8:32:59 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: IronJack

^^^^ this is the natural state of life....throw a deer femur to two dogs-watch them share...


19 posted on 06/19/2017 8:35:30 AM PDT by TnTnTn
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To: ebb tide

The essence of socialism is the idea that the individual is the property of the Group, and is compelled to labor for the good of the group.

In other words, Socialism is Slavery, with the individuals being the absolute property of the leadership of the group.


20 posted on 06/19/2017 8:37:08 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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