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1 posted on 06/14/2017 3:56:42 AM PDT by NYer
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The article dates to 2016. In typical Cardinal Burke style, it provides a clear explanation for the distinct differences in theology.

Catholic ping!

2 posted on 06/14/2017 3:58:29 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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..." if we think we are all worshipping the same God, said Cardinal Burke, “ultimately it will be the end of Christianity.” Exactly!
3 posted on 06/14/2017 4:03:23 AM PDT by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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Fantastic book that I strongly recommend.
Written by a woman born Muslim in Egypt, who moved to the USA at age 30 and converted to Christianity.

“Wholly Different” by Nonie Darwish

https://www.amazon.com/Wholly-Different-Biblical-Values-Islamic-ebook/dp/B01N9XEWPH/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1497438338&sr=1-1&keywords=wholly+different+why+i+chose+biblical+values+over+islamic+values


4 posted on 06/14/2017 4:05:48 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Papabile


5 posted on 06/14/2017 4:12:30 AM PDT by Oratam
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Can we get US coins to say: “Allag is the Devil” ?


6 posted on 06/14/2017 4:15:29 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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Pope Obvious. Does anybody really believe Christians and Muslims worship the same God (ours) / god (theirs)?


7 posted on 06/14/2017 4:15:39 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("Negative people make healthy people sick." - Roger Ailes)
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Finally - a Cardinal who is willing to call a spade a spade!!!


8 posted on 06/14/2017 4:23:07 AM PDT by Ken522
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While there have been and continue to be heresies, most Christians believe that truth exists, and that there are two witnesses to the truth: natural and special revelation. This view can be said to be shared by other enlightened religions. Even if so, we, as Christians, still have something to offer mankind that is unique and wonderful, namely Jesus.


9 posted on 06/14/2017 4:25:40 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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“To say that we all believe in love is simply not correct.”

At a particular theological level, that statement reflects our differences in our understanding of the nature of the Supreme Being: for Christians, it’s Trinitarian, for Muslims, it’s not.

And that matters because ‘love’ is a transitive verb - it requires an object. Christians can truthfully say that God is Love, because through all eternity, love united the Three Persons of the Trinity. But not so for the allah of Islam - through eternity allah is a figure of a solitary will - in that misunderstanding, their god had nothing to love, and even after the creation of mankind, he expressed that will in a demand for submission, not love.


10 posted on 06/14/2017 4:27:07 AM PDT by Stosh
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Of course we don’t worship the same God.

The God of Christianity commands us to love our enemies.

The god of Islam commands them to kill their enemies.


12 posted on 06/14/2017 4:37:59 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Excellent article. God bless Cardinal Burke.


15 posted on 06/14/2017 4:42:16 AM PDT by sneakers (It's DEMOCRAT - and not DemocratIC. There's nothing Democratic about the DEMOCRAT party)
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Damn right we do not.


16 posted on 06/14/2017 4:42:43 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Thanks for that link. I have long understood the lack of reason in Islam. I have never seen it explained so well. Now I have an argument.


18 posted on 06/14/2017 5:00:58 AM PDT by arthurus
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841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and

together with us

they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day." CCC 841

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p123a9p3.htm

23 posted on 06/14/2017 5:25:50 AM PDT by ealgeone
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Figures.
Someone in the Roman Church figures this out and he’s a member of the order that Pope Frankie is trying to destroy.


24 posted on 06/14/2017 5:52:33 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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Let’s be logical now. God and Allah are different entities. Both claim to be divine. There can be only ONE divine being in existence. Therefore only one of them exists, and the other is a figment of the imagination.

Saying “not the same God” may lead one to believe that there are two competing Gods. Not possible. Pick one. The other is a fake.


27 posted on 06/14/2017 6:13:54 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Le Pen: "Islamism is a totalitarian ideology that has declared war on our nation, on civilization.")
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WOW

a modern Catholic leader who tells the truth about Islam...

Why isn’t this man pope ???


28 posted on 06/14/2017 6:19:07 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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The Cardinal should state it as this truthful version of the Shahada, the Muslim profession of faith:

There is no Allah but Satan, and Muhammad was his murdering pedophile.


35 posted on 06/14/2017 7:38:32 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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We worship God.
They worship god.


38 posted on 06/14/2017 8:00:36 AM PDT by stylin19a
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I await his denunciation of Vatican II where it teaches that we do.


44 posted on 06/14/2017 3:14:33 PM PDT by piusv (Pray for a return to the pre-Vatican II (Catholic) Faith)
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