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Three Reasons That Argumentation Is So Difficult Today
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 05-11-17 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 05/12/2017 7:10:58 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: MHGinTN

You reject the Words of Jesus (TRUTH).

Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. 54Whoever eats* my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. 55For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. 57Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me.

Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven,* but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.n 22Many will say to me on that day,o ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?’p 23Then I will declare to them solemnly, ‘I never knew you.* Depart from me, you evildoers.’q

The Pharisees are portrayed as a negative example for his disciples, and his condemnation of those who claim to belong to him while disobeying his word is no less severe (Mt 7:21–23, 26–27).


221 posted on 05/14/2017 6:56:04 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

In regard to paganism pour into the Catholic Church...

The Twentieth Century Encyclopedia of Catholicism says the following

“In her liturgy and her art, *in her tradition* and *the forming of her doctrine*, naturally enough she includes Jewish elements, but also elements that are of *pagan origin*.

“In certain respects, she has copied her organization from that of the Roman Empire, has preserved and made fruitful the philosophical intuitions of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle, borrowed from both Barbarians and the Byzantine Roman Empire—but always remains herself, thoroughly digesting all elements drawn from external sources...In her laws, her ceremonies, her festivals and her devotions, she makes use of local customs after purifying them and “baptizing” them.


222 posted on 05/14/2017 7:21:29 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ADSUM
You are a liar and The Turth is not in you. I do not reject the Words of Jesus, I just refuse to be devolved into following the special interpretation of your pagan church institution. Don't ping me again with such lies. You disgust me. Satan has you and he will keep you if you continue in your self-righteous mode, believing you can earn by fealty to institutional sacraments what GOD has told you is HIS GIFT, His Grace in Christ Jesus.

If you could think clearly you would realize that life which can be lost then regained by your fidelity, then lost again by failure is not ETERNAL LIFE. JESUS, God with us, told you that when you believe on Whom GOD has sent for your salvation, you have eternal life then and yet you refuse it. GOD in HIS Word tells you HE is the author and FINISHER of your NEW LIFE IN CHRIST> Your filthy righteousness counts for nothing, nothing at all except your pride.

223 posted on 05/14/2017 10:17:12 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: ADSUM

Jesus also said in John 6 that if you ate His flesh and drank His blood, you would live forever. Where are the Catholics who are living forever?

He said that whoever came to Him would never hunger or thirst. Do you get hungry or thirsty?

He said that He was bread. Does that mean He was made of wheat flour?

I mean, if you are going to take what He said literally, then at least be consistent and take ALL of it literally.


224 posted on 05/14/2017 10:57:17 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ADSUM
You claim to have faith in Jesus, but from your comments you reject the Truth from Jesus, so is your faith superficial?

No, I reject the errant teaching of the Catholic church that violates the body of revealed Truth from God.

God has commanded us to NOT eat blood and that was reiterated to the church at the Council at Jerusalem.

My faith is deeper than it ever was as a Catholic because now I have Jesus and the Holy spirit dwelling in me. My body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, with whom I am sealed until the day God redeems me.

It's not the temporary dwelling that Catholicism teaches where you get it, lose it, get it, lose it. On again, off again salvation on a day to day basis.

THAT is superficial because it isn't permanent and does not result in a permanent change in life.

225 posted on 05/14/2017 11:02:03 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ADSUM

You do the best you can and God take care of the rest.


226 posted on 05/14/2017 12:49:19 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism5" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: metmom

You said:

“Jesus also said in John 6 that if you ate His flesh and drank His blood, you would live forever. Where are the Catholics who are living forever?” They are in Heaven.

He said that whoever came to Him would never hunger or thirst. Do you get hungry or thirsty? They are in Heaven.

He said that He was bread. Does that mean He was made of wheat flour? Jesus turned the bread and wine into His Body and Blood.

I will continue to pray for you so that you see the Truth and that you put aside the childish games that anti-Catholics play. The true Church founded by Christ is the Catholic Church. You are always welcome.


227 posted on 05/14/2017 1:58:15 PM PDT by ADSUM
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