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Jesuit Leader: No One Recorded Jesus' Words on Marriage, It's 'Nuanced,' Never 'Black and White'
CNS News ^ | April 3,2017 | Michael W. Chapman

Posted on 04/04/2017 12:07:48 AM PDT by Robwin

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To: IrishBrigade
in a court of law that is called ‘hearsay’, and is not admissable as any sort of credible evidence...

Good luck with that when you stand before Almighty God.

How do you claim to know about these things?

I told you, God's Word is true.

I have made no claim that I ‘know’ the truth involved in divine inspiration...

You deny the truth, and take a stand against the truth.

81 posted on 04/05/2017 5:34:00 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: MHGinTN

I sure hope so. Soon!


82 posted on 04/05/2017 5:39:56 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

Good luck with that when you stand before Almighty God.

I was addressing your post,(wherein you stated that you know for a fact people who may digress from your opinion have no faith or salvation), not God’s; do try and stay focused...

How do you claim to know about these things?
I told you, God’s Word is true.

you have answered your own question to me...again, focus, I know it’s hard...

You deny the truth, and take a stand against the truth.

nope, I’ve denied nothing, unless it is your denial of
those with views distinct from your own...but enough of this...let me test you; here in the US we had at one time a system of chattel slavery, which was roundly condemned as an affront to God and His Biblical authority on the one hand, and fervently defended as Godly and properly based on His Biblical teachings on the other; this is what we call a conundrum, a question with a difficult, if not an unworkable answer. so where is the truth in that conundrum? A truth cannot contain two diametrically opposed answers; a truth cannot be a conundrum, yet here we see God’s Word being cited as truth by both fractiously divided groups...which side of this issue was the side of Divine Truth, and why...?


83 posted on 04/06/2017 2:50:57 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade
Your post is convoluted, meandering, and slippery.

It says nothing.

You asked me a question, and I gave you almost two dozen Scripture references. You avoided those like they were acid in your eyes.

Then you bring up a straw man like slavery in the US!

God's Word is truth, and Jesus Christ is the only way to avoid the hell on earth that is someday to come during the Tribulation, and the Hell that will follow all unbelievers in eternity.

In either case, those who reject Christ are running out of time.

84 posted on 04/06/2017 3:01:59 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SkyPilot

Your post is convoluted, meandering, and slippery.

you aren’t much at debate, are you...?

You asked me a question, and I gave you almost two dozen Scripture references.

my question regarded your words, not God’s; focus, focus...

Then you bring up a straw man like slavery

and you clearly don’t understand the term ‘straw man’, which refers to an intentionally misleading proposition introduced for the ease of defeating it; I did no such thing, I asked you a direct question concerning what you call revealed and received truth in the textual Bible, revealed truth which was being used to affirm two polar opposites, which a truth cannot contain...again, this is direct questioning, with no remotely misleading elements, and someone who is as certain in his/her position as you claim to be should have no problem answering it...


85 posted on 04/06/2017 3:31:32 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: IrishBrigade

Your soul is spewing guile. The Truth is not in you. To borrow a phrase, ‘All your guile belong to the father of lies.’ A sleezy, slimy lawyer would be proud of your guile, but it will be swept aside to expose your bankrupt spirit when you face your Creator.


86 posted on 04/06/2017 6:08:50 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: IrishBrigade; MHGinTN
Straw Man: The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version in order to make someones argument easier to attack. It is a common form of argument introduced as an informal fallacy, and intended to misrepresent by introducing a weaker or distorted version of the other person's argument.

Example: your introduction of US slavery to the debate about the truth of God's Word. Now, back to the real issue: truth, salvation, and faith are defined by God's Word. I bet you never even read one of the Scripture versus I gave you.

Christ didn't say He spoke the truth. He claimed He was Truth itself (see my tagline).

You can attempt to throw out all the noise you wish, or any debate trick. It still will not save you when God's wrath is unleashed.

You still have time, but as I stated before, you are rapidly running out of it. Either by the Lord's prophetic time clock, or by your own mortality, with each passing second you arrive closer to your own eternity.

Christ forgives all to those who come to Him. But the door will shut one day.

1 At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish and five were wise. 3 The foolish ones took their lamps but did not take any oil with them. 4 The wise ones, however, took oil in jars along with their lamps. 5 The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep.

6 “At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’

7 “Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8 The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’

9 “‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’

10 “But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.

11 “Later the others also came. ‘Lord, Lord,’ they said, ‘open the door for us!’

12 “But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’

13 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.

Matthew 25: 1-13

87 posted on 04/06/2017 7:07:05 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: MHGinTN

but it will be swept aside to expose your bankrupt spirit when you face your Creator.

sure, sure, anything you say, toots...


88 posted on 04/06/2017 10:41:20 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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Straw Man:

you still don’t understand it...I never misrepresented anything; instead, I clearly stated that I would test your belief that Biblical authority is absolute Truth; you seemed to have missed that...

I bet you never even read one of the Scripture versus I gave you.

I have translated each Gospel except Luke’s from the Douay Bible into Latin; I assure you I have read most of the Scripture you sent me...

You can attempt to throw out all the noise you wish, or any debate trick.

my ‘trick’ was a direct question to you, and I would like to see how you respond; I gave you an example of an instance when divine truth was explicitly used to affirm diametrically opposed culture systems (there are many others, I assure you)...you have stipulated that the Word is Truth’ I would simply like to know how you would reconcile a ‘truth’ which validates two opposing positions; if anyone is dodging and dancing, it is yourself...

you further stipulate that I have denied your belief system; I have not, as I have no charism that allows me to do so...my entire point in addressing you is your surety that I and others like me have no value and salvation within us, a statement that I doubt you have any charism allowing you to make...


89 posted on 04/06/2017 11:04:15 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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