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Jesuit Leader: No One Recorded Jesus' Words on Marriage, It's 'Nuanced,' Never 'Black and White'
CNS News ^ | April 3,2017 | Michael W. Chapman

Posted on 04/04/2017 12:07:48 AM PDT by Robwin

Although the Catholic Church has taught since its inception that marriage is between one man and one woman for life, the new superior of the worldwide Jesuit religious order, Fr. Arturo Sosa Abascal, claims that despite Jesus Christ's words about marriage (Matthew 19: 3-9), "no one had a recorder to take down his words," which must be "contextualized," and that doctrine implies a "hardness" like "stone" while "human reality is much more nuanced" and "never black and white."

Fr. Absacal, from Venezuela, was elected superior of the Jesuits, the Society of Jesus, in October. The Catholic religious order for men dates back to the year 1540, when it was founded by St. Ignatious of Loyola. It is the largest religious order in the Catholic Church. Although the Jesuits for centuries were considered the shock troops of the Vatican and their superior dubbed the "Black Pope" because of his influence, the religious order has grown very liberal, modernist over the last 60 years. Rev. Jorge Bergoglio, the current Pope Francis, is a Jesuit.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: abascal; blasphemy; catholics; heresy; homosexualagenda; jesuits; marriage
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This piece states the Jesuits have become more liberal, modernist in the last 60 years. I should say so. What Catholic leader since the founding of the Church would question the sanctity and nature of Holy Matrimony?
1 posted on 04/04/2017 12:07:48 AM PDT by Robwin
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To: Robwin

I take it the Ten Commandments, like the Constitution, are a “living” document.


2 posted on 04/04/2017 12:12:23 AM PDT by AZLiberty (A is now A once again.)
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To: AZLiberty

If the Church promulgates Heresy, is it heresy?


3 posted on 04/04/2017 12:19:19 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: AZLiberty
Due to a sneaky translation from the Hebrew Moses's Ten Suggestions were redesignated Commandments. The prologue at the beginning actually was: It Would Be Nice If-
The Jesuits are merely correcting the record.
4 posted on 04/04/2017 12:23:20 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Robwin

Srsly?

I’m not Catholic, but just from what I read, seems pretty clear what Jesus says. The only possible argument I see is whether adultery is an acceptable reason for remarriage of the wronged partner.


5 posted on 04/04/2017 12:25:30 AM PDT by Luircin (Dancing in the streets! Time to DRAIN THE SWAMP!)
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To: Robwin

“Did God really say?” — Serpent in the Garden


6 posted on 04/04/2017 12:26:25 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: spirited irish

ping


7 posted on 04/04/2017 12:36:32 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: Robwin

“despite Jesus Christ’s words about marriage”, Jesus didn’t talk about marriage. What a contradiction.


8 posted on 04/04/2017 1:05:30 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Robwin

Only under certain distinct circumstances do miracles occur. The wine.


9 posted on 04/04/2017 1:26:56 AM PDT by Scram1
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To: Robwin

They’ve given themselves over to the worship of mammon.


10 posted on 04/04/2017 1:34:33 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Robwin
"the religious order has grown very liberal, modernist over the last 60 years"

In other words, worldly and anti-Christian. They've embraced the serpent in the garden and serve the Dark One.

11 posted on 04/04/2017 1:47:55 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: Robwin

Idiots...


12 posted on 04/04/2017 1:56:29 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Robwin
The Jesuits have always been the "intelligentsia" of the Catholic Church.

Their purpose has not necessarily been doctrinal purity so much as maintenance of ecclesiastical power.

13 posted on 04/04/2017 2:08:54 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: Robwin

Matthew 19:4 He said to them, “Have you not read that He Who made them in the first place made them man and woman? 5 It says, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will live with his wife. The two will become one.’ 6 So they are no longer two but one. Let no man divide what God has put together.”


Seems pretty clear to me.

He really didn’t talk about bestiality, so does that mean it is okay?


14 posted on 04/04/2017 2:20:45 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: Robwin

The Jesuits are an evil order serving a heretic pope..


15 posted on 04/04/2017 2:27:12 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP THAT POS PAUL RYAN!! HE KILLED OBAMACARE REPEAL AND WILL KILL TAX REFORM!!)
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To: Robwin

“What is truth?”

— Pilate

(although he was not on tape)


16 posted on 04/04/2017 2:29:14 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: castlegreyskull

Depends on what kind of animal :)


17 posted on 04/04/2017 2:30:19 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust cIonservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: castlegreyskull
The Pharisees also came to Him, testing Him, and saying to Him, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for just any reason?”

And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’

and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?

So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

They said to Him, “Why then did Moses command to give a certificate of divorce, and to put her away?”

He said to them, “Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so.

And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery; and whoever marries her who is divorced commits adultery.”

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I'm with you. I don't see the nuance.

18 posted on 04/04/2017 2:43:19 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Luircin
The only possible argument I see is whether adultery is an acceptable reason for remarriage of the wronged partner.

True. Is it "adultery" after the vows or "sexual immorality" before the vows?

19 posted on 04/04/2017 2:47:13 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Robwin

What the hell does that mean ? Dam Jesuits always equivocating to current moral concepts.


20 posted on 04/04/2017 2:56:32 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's because of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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