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Catholics called to stand against ‘alt-right’ views but seek dialogue
Catholic Philly ^ | March 2, 2017 | Rhina Guidos, Catholic News Service

Posted on 03/30/2017 3:53:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

WASHINGTON (CNS) – When the Conservative Political Action Conference, popularly known as CPAC, met near Washington in late February, the event’s main organizer did everything possible to separate the annual gathering from a fringe group it said it wants no part of and whose members don’t reflect their values.

“There is a sinister organization that is trying to worm its way into our ranks and we must not be duped,” said Dan Schneider, executive director of the American Conservative Union, which hosts the CPAC gathering, referring to the self-described “alt-right” movement, whose followers espouse white nationalism, populism and white supremacy.

Saying the group had “hijacked the very term ‘alt-right,'” Schneider pummeled away at its supporters whom he called “fascists,” and angrily rebuked them for using the term, which he said up until its “hijacking” had been “used for a long time in a very good and normal way.”

“They met just a couple months ago in Washington, D.C., to spew their hatred and make their ‘Heil Hitler’ salutes,” said Schneider angrily. “They are anti-Semites. They are racists. They are sexist. They hate the Constitution. They hate free markets. They hate pluralism. They hate everything and they despise everything we believe in. They are not an extension of conservatism.”

Those belonging to the self-described “alt-right” movement had attended the conference before without incident, including Richard Spencer, the de facto leader of the “alt-right,” a shortened version of alternative right. But Feb. 23, he was asked to leave CPAC as Schneider publicly excoriated the movement.

That same day, Maria Mazzenga, assistant director at the Institute for Policy Research & Catholic Studies at The Catholic University of America was at the university’s campus in Washington, describing the movement and Spencer during an event and panel discussion about how Catholics should respond to the “alt-right.”

Spencer, she said, is a white nationalist who calls himself an “identitarian” not a white supremacist, but he advocates for a white homeland, for a “dispossessed white race,” and calls for “peaceful ethnic cleansing” to halt the “deconstruction of European culture.” Those who follow him and the “alt-right” movement hold the same views, she said, adding: “Sounds like white supremacism to me.”

Mazzenga reminded the audience that Steve Bannon, a Catholic who is the chief strategist and special counsel to President Donald Trump, was the former CEO of Breitbart News, who once called the site “the platform for the alt-right.” Bannon has been critical of the church’s stance on immigrants, another hallmark of the “alt-right,” and “he sneeringly calls (Republican House Speaker) Paul Ryan’s Catholicism ‘social justice Catholicism’ strangely enough,” Mazzenga said.

Bannon, she said, holds the views of one of two camps of Catholic Americans she studies: the exclusionary variety and the inclusionary.

“Exclusionary Catholic Americanism is defensive, adopts a siege mentality, emphasizes persecution of enemies, views other religious traditions as threatening to its very existence,” Mazzenga said. “Inclusive Catholic Americanism seeks to reconcile American ideals of religious liberty and ethnic pluralism with Catholic traditions. It seeks continuity with its parent, Judaism, and commonalties rather than differences with other religions to which it’s related, like Islam.”

Both views are strong in the country’s politically charged and divisive environment, and also very much present in the church’s pews and institutions today. While Catholic churches welcome refugees and immigrants, views that demonize Muslims, that believe there’s a war between Christianity and Islam “are often tolerated among American Catholics,” said Jordan Denari Duffner, who participated in the panel and studies Islamophobia for the Bridge Initiative at Georgetown University in Washington.

While Islamophobic views, which are very much in tune with those who follow the “alt-right” movement, have little impact in places such as the Vatican, they have found a sympathetic outlet among some publications in Catholic media, Duffner said.

Some of those views portray Islam as a religion that is “violent, misogynistic, not part of the Judeo-Christian West” and say that Muslims can’t be trusted and seek to impose “their way of life on us,” Duffner said.

“If some of this doesn’t sound unfamiliar to you, it’s because it’s become so mainstream,” she said, and even appears in some Catholic newspapers, websites and on popular Catholic television programs in the U.S.

Julia Young, a historian with The Catholic University of America who also participated in the panel, said similar views have existed before in the country, but this time the “targets” for such views, which some would call nativism, others would call xenophobia, seem to be immigrants and Muslims.

The hierarchy of the Catholic Church in the U.S. has always made clear where it stands, she said. As early as 1919, the U.S. bishops formed an immigration bureau whose sole focus was to speak on behalf of and defend immigrants, to provide legal counsel and defense for them, particularly with the goal of keeping families together, Young said.

Duffner said high profile Catholic leaders such as Cardinal Blase J. Cupich of Chicago, Cardinal Joseph W. Tobin of Newark, New Jersey, as well as other bishops and the bishops’ conference have spoken up against the anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant sentiment that those in the” alt-right” foster. But she said she’d like to see national efforts trickle down to Catholics in the pews, to bring them together with people of different faiths, particularly Muslims, because it would help combat some of the prevalent and erroneous views some of them hold about Islam.

She said she’d also like to see Catholic leaders “confront the portrayal of Islam that we are seeing in books published by Catholic publishers,” adding that Catholic media should “police itself” and examine some of its portrayals.

Panelist Christopher Hale, executive director of Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good, said that while the internet created a democracy, it also created “an oligarchy of lies” in which some of the views that target certain communities and are based on fear and lies have gained ground.

“The more you communicate, the more you get systems of communication, the more your lies become the truth,” Hale said. “The only way to fight lies is with the truth.”

But for the truth to win out, he said, “we must engage these folks” and the wrong approach, he said, is to think that we’re “better than” they are, even if they hold views that may be difficult to hear.

Talking to people who hold views such as the ones embraced by the “alt-right” is the Christian approach, he said, and the idea of not talking to them, of thinking that “some people are below our worth” is what he calls the “deplorable option,” referencing Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton’s comment in which she called Trump supporters “a basket of deplorables.”

“Let’s be real,” he said. “Racism isn’t simple. There’s a lot of things built up in racism beyond just a moral evil. There’s structural issues, there’s economic issues. Xenophobia is complicated. So, if we’re going to be really engaging, we have to spend a little less time denouncing and actually engaging and proclaiming the truth without any hesitancy but understand that the way people got to where they are, there’s a path they took. They didn’t just parachute in.”

Dialogue, he said, is vital.

Young, the historian, said that as a Catholic, for her it also is important to be supportive of the “victims” or “targets” of some of those who are attacked by the “alt-right” and its sympathizers, while also seeking a way to dialogue with them.

“I don’t think those are incompatible,” she said.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: catholics

1 posted on 03/30/2017 3:53:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ridiculous - most leftists would classify most Catholic Dogma as “alt-right.”


2 posted on 03/30/2017 3:56:04 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I couldn’t read through all this crap but there are plenty of decent, church-going Catholics (as opposed to devout Catholics like Nancy Pelosi who love abortion and euthanasia as much as the average Protestant) who keep to their religion and support America and know that evil is abroad in the land and in the world. Some of them are even here on FR.


3 posted on 03/30/2017 3:59:01 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: All

Probably bigger problems than a handful of people LARPing as Nazis.


4 posted on 03/30/2017 3:59:04 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think some on the alt-right simply have the kind of ethnic solidarity that was once unremarkable - here is the Italian parish, and there the Polish one, and the next town has the Irish.


5 posted on 03/30/2017 4:03:31 PM PDT by heartwood (If you're looking for a </sarc tag>, you just saw it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Take this phony Francis the talking poop and throw him off a cliff somewhere!!!!!!!!!!!!


6 posted on 03/30/2017 4:05:20 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
referring to the self-described “alt-right” movement, whose followers espouse white nationalism, populism and white supremacy.

MSM and the Left define it thus then include everyone to the right of Chairman Mao in the category.

7 posted on 03/30/2017 4:12:42 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: miss marmelstein

I consider myself one of them.


8 posted on 03/30/2017 4:22:31 PM PDT by NotSoFreeStater (If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Asinine babble. White Catholics voted 60/30 for Trump but Jose sold out the Church for a loaf of Welfare cheese. The result was a trump win with Catholics of only 52/45, but it showed neither White Catholics nor Republicans NEED Jose. He’s okay if he wants to be a man and take care of his family like everybody else, but as a leach we don’t need him.


9 posted on 03/30/2017 4:24:57 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sorry, but this (somewhat ex) Catholic considers the Pope an alt-LEFT.

As in commie.

As in capitalism misunderstander.

As in ill-educated boob.


10 posted on 03/30/2017 4:25:06 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: heartwood

I think some on the alt-right simply have the kind of ethnic solidarity that was once unremarkable

Very well said, and very true.

This whole mysterious and frightening "Alt Right" movement shares the same philosophy that the Founders did, and the American philosophy on race that was common knowledge up until just a few decades ago, i.e., the Civil Rights movement.

Modern Conservatism, embodied by CPAC, is the heretical false doctrine, not the Alt Right.

11 posted on 03/30/2017 4:27:47 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So much for “speaking the truth in love”. Robert Spencer pretty much just points out what Muslims’ own teachings are, from their own texts and rulings. You can’t truly evangelize people that you refuse to understand. Seems like Catholic leadership wants to filter out any truth that doesn’t fit the way they want to understand the world. And when truth doesn’t matter, the Father of Lies wins.


12 posted on 03/30/2017 4:30:14 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: NotSoFreeStater

Undoubtedly you are, my FRiend. We have a few of them here but they get no respect generally.


13 posted on 03/30/2017 4:30:59 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
referring to the self-described “alt-right” movement, whose followers espouse white nationalism, populism and white supremacy.

The alt-right does not espouse white nationalism. It espouses ethno-nationalism: Mexico for the mexicans, Japan for the japanese, Israel for the jews, France for the french, Americans for America, etc. Somalians are not Americans, Algerians are not French, Mexicans are not Japanese, etc.

The alt-right does not espouse "white supremacy". This author is ignorant and seeks to portray the alt-right in the worst possible light.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/08/what-alt-right-is.html

14 posted on 03/30/2017 4:32:08 PM PDT by bkopto
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To: heartwood
A good case can and has been made that there no longer being ethnic solidarity and communities composed of primarily a single ethnic group is no accident and not simply the consequence of economic trends.

The Slaughter of Cities
Urban Renewal as Ethnic Cleansing
E. Michael Jones
ISBN 1-58731-775-3

Nor, so it would seem, is the concentration of other ethnic groups within cities an accident.

15 posted on 03/30/2017 4:32:14 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; miss marmelstein

Personally, I harbor great sympathies for “halting the deconstruction of European culture”.

If that means not being thrilled with turning America into Obama’s Third World Theme Park, browning her up with his South American invasion through disordered open borders over run with impoverished babies, children and mostly men, so be it. I don’t mean to worship “order” before charity, but it seems to me it is cultural and literal suicide to do otherwise, in the name of charity.

The Ellis Isle days are long past. Few even appreciate the order and generosity that process brought. The immigrants then were foreign, but they were far and away a religious lot, unopposed to American ideals and her promise.

They asked for little and contributed much.

Today, the immigrants are the antithesis of those of old. They may well despise America, are eager to take her charity in order to work here, but only to send the money South and drain our generosity.

National suicide is not an option. Not to assuage socialists.


16 posted on 03/30/2017 5:07:13 PM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public Education/Acad emi are the farm team for more Marxists coming... infinitum.)
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To: RitaOK

I couldn’t agree more. Today’s immigrants are total ingrates. They make Sacco & Vanzetti look like warm and fuzzy members of society.


17 posted on 03/30/2017 5:11:23 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Exclusionary Catholic Americanism is defensive, adopts a siege mentality, emphasizes persecution of enemies, views other religious traditions as threatening to its very existence”

Catholics had the same beliefs at the Battle of Lepanto.


18 posted on 03/30/2017 5:27:44 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hmmm....

I thought alt-right was a label applied to ordinary conservatives by the left.


19 posted on 03/30/2017 5:35:34 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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