Posted on 12/28/2016 8:54:22 AM PST by Salvation
Monsignor Pope Ping!
Because that’s when Santa Claus comes!
I’m not sure how particularly enamored I am of the basic message of the song “Mary - by: Patty Griffin”, but the artwork depicting Mary, mother of Jesus, in this video is exquisite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0a4dRI1JMM
Because nobody stays at an inn during the day................
Because stars are hard to see in the daytime even for Magi?
Love this.
I can only assume that Mary and Joseph spent only one night in Bethlehem, took care of the newborn baby and did the census paperwork with the Romans and left to go back to Nazereth the next day.
The New Testament says the ‘wise men’ found the child in a house, not a manger, so Jesus could have been a month old at the time of their coming.
I know! right? You would think this ‘author’ would know something that basic
Stars are seen at night, like 7:45, too ... unless it's cloudy.
I know, he's feeling poetic ...
Shepherds keeping watch by night, a star...do we need more?
The Magi showed up when Jesus was a toddler. If they woke him at night, Mary would have been quite put out...
And there were, in the same country, shepherds, abiding in the fields, keeping watch over their flocks by night....
It’ almost the shortest day of the year, it’s dark all the time.
Toddler?
Where did you get that mistaken information?
Matthew 2:8, 10, 11, 13, 14 “young child”
Matthew 2:7 Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, inquired of them diligently what time the star appeared.
Matthew 2:16 - Herod kills all “from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently inquired of the wise men.”
Seems to me the wise men told Herod that the star appeared around two years earlier. Toddler could be the description.
“Seems to me the wise men told Herod that the star appeared around two years earlier. Toddler could be the description.”
If the star appeared two years earlier, that does not mean that Jesus was born two years earlier. The wise men found Jesus in Bethlehem. There’s no logical reason to believe the Holy Family was there for two years or even one year.
Herod was just trying to cover all possibilities by murdering EVERY male child under two years of age.
Fair enough. It is generally assumed that the new star appeared with the birth of Christ, but it could have appeared long before. And Herod could have been being careful by covering a wider range.
But then we have “come into the house” in verse 11. If there was “no room in the inn” why were they in a house that very night?
Of course, the Bible doesn’t give details on all this. So we just have to add our own filler. I think I side on the idea that Jesus was around two years old, and that Mary and Joseph were able to use the treasures from the wise men to make their move to Egypt.
Luke 2:12 Baby is βρέφος brephos which means a new-born child, an infant, a babe.
Matthew 2:8 Child is παιδίον paidion which means a young child, a little boy.
Further in Luke the Magi are not referenced when the shepherds were called. In Matthew, the Magi came 'after' Jesus was born, having related to Herod that they saw His star in the East. They set upon their journey (most likely from Persepolis or another city in Persia) which would have taken several months.
Finally, Herod dictated the death of all male children 2 years old and younger.
“But then we have “come into the house” in verse 11. If there was “no room in the inn” why were they in a house that very night?”
Perhaps someone took pity on the young mother and her little baby and said, “Please stay in my home while you’re here.”
It also be pointed out that the Greek word used in Scripture for “inn” is kataluma, and can mean guest chamber, lodging place or inn. The only other time this word was used in the New Testament, it means a furnished, large, upper story room within a private house. It is translated guest chamber, not inn (Mark 14:14-15). Some say Jesus was born in the house of relatives, but outside the normal living and guest quarters. Many houses had a living area for animals. Perhaps the Holy Family ended up in that enclosed space and it might very well have been a cave of some sort. http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/749/why-inn-for-kataluma-in-luke-27
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