Posted on 10/18/2016 11:57:46 AM PDT by chuckles
Well, the enemy is busy, as usual, and I fear being more successful than usual. I tend to look at things in a binary fashion and for the election, I see the Christian view, and everyone else's view. During the Primary, I had my picks based on what I saw in the character of the candidates and used the guidelines of what they believed, what fruit they displayed, Biblical knowledge, ect. My picks one by one fell off the list. Now we have, at last, a binary choice.
What I see and hear from fellow Christians is misery, complaining, depression, anger, and any other Satanic fruit that Christians have been taught NOT to allow. I have learned the devils ways over my long life of observation and one of his favorites is the tactics used by magicians. A Magician will wave one hand around in the air while a pretty girl moves quickly around the stage to move your eyes away from what he's actually doing with the other hand.
About a week ago, NBC released a video of Trump 11 years ago saying things that insult most people, let alone most Christians. The masses bit the bait and Trump's race was damaged to the point of no return.( or so the polls seem to show).
Now his language is some that I wouldn't have used, but I think most of us sinners saved by grace will admit some time in our lives we may have done things just as sketchy. I was born again at 43, so I'm glad camera's in every hand weren't really that common most of my life.
The point is, the enemy seems to have gotten many Christians attention following the shiny object and they fail to look at the REAL fruit right in front of their face. Hillary has her own special fruit, but Dems in general produce their brand of fruit year after year, no matter who is in office.
First lets be Hillary's fruit inspector for a moment. She loves Margret Sanger. Sanger was the architect of the Holocaust and is the founder of Planned Parenthood, the murderer of 65 million babies of all races. She defends the selling of harvested baby parts for profit. She defends sodomite marriage and men in women's bathrooms. A thinking Christian must realize the institution of marriage was set up by God to explain how Jesus felt about His people. When Adam named the animals, God put him to sleep and formed his bride because God knew Jesus wanted a bride and man was made in His image. This marriage abomination is just a counterfeit by Satan to confuse the purposes of God. In reality, a sodomite can live with his partner, fornicate with many partners, live alone, or whatever he wants already. To get married is a direct insult to God and nothing more. The rainbow is a counterfeit of the covenant with Noah and is just to insult God again. Hillary is a liar. A prolific liar. In fact, I challenge anyone to find a piece of video with her lips moving where she isn't spouting a provable lie. She lies about her lies. As Christians, we know who her father is. She's a criminal. This has been proved on global TV, under oath, saying things we know she did. We absolutely know she had secret documents listed on her server for the whole world to see and we even recovered some of them and know they were listed as classified. In a normal world that would be listed as perjury and obstruction of justice, both are felony crimes with hard jail time.
Now let's look at the Dem party. Of course they support abortion even if a Dem voter doesn't. Romans 1:32 lists some sins that even if you don't personally do the sin, if you approve, you are guilty. This is the problem I have with "Christians"( notice the quotes), that believe they can vote Dem and not support what they do. I have never understood Catholics in particular and other Christians in General can vote for a party that murders babies as their main plank in the platform. Last election, over 55% of RCC's voted Dem and I do not know of any parish that believe abortion is not murder. The new shiny object is sodomite rights of all kinds and somehow being a bigot because you love God and what His Word tells us. They have proven they will put you in jail if you don't conform with the world,( which we are told explicitly not to do). Yet Christians continue to vote Dem. The Dem party voted to erase all mentions of God from the platform, yet Christians still support Dems. They are the ones trying to remove God from society, school, culture, even Christmas and Easter. Jesus said we must hate even our mothers and fathers, children and relatives in order to follow Him. Of course He doesn't want you to hate anyone, but what that means is, if someone, or something, comes between you and God, you are to put God first. That sort of blows that old saying out of the water that says "I don't bring my religion into the voting booth, or school, or work, ect. God even comes before your family so I'm sure He wants to be before your political party. The Bible tells us that whoever curses Israel will be cursed. What do liberals think about Israel? Just sayin.
I could go on, but let's get to Trump. Like I said in my first paragraph, Trump wasn't my first choice. But saying a few nasty words is not the same as killing a baby to steal his liver. It's not the same as treason by giving the enemy our secret documents. Wanting a fence is not the same as removing God from the country. Wanting a tax cut or a tax hike isn't a faith based decision. I would think a Christian would be encouraged by his list of SCOTUS nominees. A thinking Christian cannot be excited about a Hillary pick knowing how she and her fellow Dems feel about God and the RCC church. I fail to see anything disqualifying about Trump to a thinking Christian. If Trump was going to grab a woman without permission, he had the perfect chance as he got off the bus to get a big handful, but he didn't. I have NEVER in my life ever asked a girl to kiss her. You don't ask women if you can run your hand up her leg. I think if you did, she would dump you so fast your head would spin. This comes from new liberal meme that in college, you must have a form on file before you touch anyone or you will be charged with sexual assault.
Just to cut this short,if the video of Trump talking dirty has you thinking you just can't support him or stay at home, you should know that scales are over your eyes and Satan has blinded you to well known principles in the Dem party. Murdering babies and supporting sodomy are looked upon by God as sins leading to death while cursing is a sin of the flesh. It's time to watch the magicians other hand to see what is really going on and block out the shiny object. If you constantly believe the lie, God can give you over to strong delusion.
It would be nice to have a candidate like Tim Tebow, or Franklin Graham, but we have drifted way past that these days. We are all sinners saved by grace through faith. Some will be better than others, but all have flaws. Why would ANY Christian be fooled by a baby killer unless they have been blinded by the enemy and are headed for the ditch?
An anecdote: my dear mother was NeverTrump when we talked politics at a family event in August (note: she is an active pro-lifer, a very traditional, conservative Christian, and had been for Cruz all the way). Bottom line: she couldn’t stand Trump and would not vote for him.
We talked again two days ago - she now is solidly supporting Trump.
"You don't ask women if you can run your hand up her leg. I think if you did, she would dump you so fast your head would spin."
is a most profound statement to a man.
I have run my hand up Many many a leg without interference because I knew, at the time, we were in one accord.
I've never asked for a kiss or permission.
The ONLY thing I have EVER asked for from a girl (when I was a boy) or a woman ... was for her phone number.
THAT'S where you get your ultimate answer.
IF hillary would be President, with bringing in the millions of muslims she plans on bringing in .. how long would it be before isis would be rounding up Christians and beheading your Christian kids and Christian grandkids right here in the United States. How long before hillary rounded them up for isis.
We’re talking ‘evil’ here.. for that is what hillary is.
We have never had a Franklin Graham type for President, why do Christians expect one this time?
We’ve been studying Genesis and the story of the Patriarchs. I encourage people to read about them. Today we read about Jacob. If we were allowed to vote for who God would name Israel, it probably wouldn’t be him.
I have an acquaintance who is strongly involved in the pro-Life movement. He’s by far a single issue voter.
I told him that the primaries are the time for electoral purity, but during the general election, we are down to a binary choice.
In his case, Stein and Johnson are as pro-abortion as Clinton, Trump has never been a strong pro-life guy but he’s definitely saying the right things. he’s approaching it from an economic perspective.
I believe that there are many ways to get the pro-life message across. Personally, I’m disappointed in those that make it into a religious thing. I’m not catholic and am uncomfortable with and very opposed to most catholic doctrines. When I attend pro-Life events, I feel that all the catholic religious images and pictures of Mary are detrimental to the cause of life and also serve to keep protestants and evangelicals away.
It’s so easy for Christians to go the way of the scribes and Pharisees. Holier than thou.
Not voting for a candidate because they think he doesn’t meet their standard.
It’s probably not actually believing Christians who will have the most trouble with Donald. It’s the folks who want someone to condemn.
In the Catholic meme set, Mary is considered the ultimate mercy, while she’s an irrelevant figure to others.
Artistic symbolism of the sacred heart of Jesus would be better understood across denominational boundaries.
Evangelicals don’t really identify with that imagery either. What would be better is to leave all of the religious imagery out of it and concentrate on the life of the baby, health of the mother, both physical and emotional, cost to society, obscene profits to Planned Parenthood and the “doctors”, dirty facilities, entire populations decimated, racist history and current racism in abortion facilities, science etc.
If it’s not tied to the love of God, all this other stuff is just effluvia, so much mind numbing yack.
You mean evangelicals that aren’t even evangelicals, in other words.
No, evangelicals that don’t subscribe to catholic dogma.
When you are trying to reach non-religious people, using religious arguments aren’t all that effective.
Showing women that their baby is actually a human being works. Using science to prove that life begins at conception works. Opening a women’s care center with a sonogram technician on staff, counselors and post natal care works.
Walking down the street reciting the rosary and holding up a statue reaches the already reached catholics but turns off evangelicals and protestants and most importantly turns off those you are trying to reach the most.
Lutherans use it and few others are puzzled.
What’s this strawman about rosaries and statues?
You don’t realize that when the foundations are destroyed, the righteous can do nothing.
“It’s a human being” can be met with “But how could I let this human being suffer for decades when it could die almost instantly.” That is the inevitable result of pulling God out of the picture.
This should be the normal "evolution" of the election. Last time out, evangelicals nixed Romney because he was a Mormon. So we got the Muslim. ....Makes sense to them I guess.
I have lots of problems with Mormonism, but we aren't picking the church we go to. I'm sure most of us could agree with the moral stances Mormons take on abortion, sodomy, freedom of religion, ect. I don't think Romney's big issue was to get everyone to drink milk or wear special underwear. The filter American Christians put people through would filter out most of their own family members, let alone a fellow believer.
I’m just posting my impressions. Whenever I go to pro-life events like March for Life, I wonder just how effective all the religious imagery is.
As a former Catholic and current evangelical, I truly never understood the veneration of Mary and I lived in that world for 18 years.
If I didn’t buy it as a catholic, what makes anyone think that it has any way of being effective when trying to reach a liberal, pro-abortion person?
John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments
John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments
John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments
I agree. People need to stop thinking about what he said and look at what SHE will do. Just take ONE promise she makes and assume congress stops everything else.
Wide open borders! America will be finished in a couple of years.
Tax hike! The economy will crash back to below 2008 levels. Gun control! I have to watch what I type here, but let's just say America WON"T accept that without force.
Foreign policy. Let's just say I haven't seen any in 8 years.
To withhold a vote for Trump for bad language is beyond stupid.
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