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“Mortal sins are very difficult to commit”
California Catholic Daily ^ | 9/28/16 | admin

Posted on 09/29/2016 12:17:14 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: Rashputin
“Carlin was anti-Christ, not just anti-Catholic, something people who like to repeat his slanders of Catholicism choose to ignore.”

Actually, Carlin was anti-God, rather than anti-Christ or anti-Catholic, which is why I had a grudging respect for him: he didn't indict Catholicism per se for things that he held against God. In addition, Carlin always wrote with affection about his Catholic grade school and high schools. Generally, he didn't take cheap shots. His jokes about Catholicism were just jokes and his sharpest jabs about religion were at God Himself. That, folks, is something, given that it's much easier (politically, socially, culturally) to take aim at the Church than at God Himself.

Spare a prayer for George Carlin. At least Carlin was honest enough not pretend he was supporting the Catholic Church, even as he undermined it; I could name a few prelates about whom I couldn't say the same.

41 posted on 09/29/2016 4:08:15 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: ebb tide
I agree, however, the people with the Pope may well be pushing that program and taking advantage of the situation for a photo op as the presence of the brochure or whatever he's holding implies. That doesn't mean the Pope just held a clown Mass or anything of the sort.

Now, it wouldn't surprise me a bit if Francis has huge orange shoes and a different nose he wears around the Vatican, but there's no reason to imply that a particular photo means more than it probably does.

42 posted on 09/29/2016 4:13:32 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: miss marmelstein
It's just stupid, and they have a program that judges employee performance in part by whether or not they asked everyone if they wanted to donate and get a nose.

Personally, I knew the world was at or very near the end back when the son of a friend of mine was in that mess they made Black Hawk Down about and a week later got an Article 15 for saying it was a Mongolian Charter Flight (not the original phrase) in front of a reporter.

43 posted on 09/29/2016 4:18:30 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: utahagen

Actually, Christ is God so why the quibble ?


44 posted on 09/29/2016 4:19:48 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Rashputin
Agreed. However, comics play to the masses, and when you're addressing a large, diverse, population, it's much safer to go after “the Church”, while subtly defending God, as opposed to putting it out there that it is God who, by giving people free will, allows bad things to happen to good people. When Carlin was a standup comic, from the late 60s through the early 2000s (but mostly during the 70s), taking aim at God Himself was really risky, while taking shots at the Catholic Church was not that big a deal.

When I read the things Pope Francis says today about church-going Catholics, I appreciate the guts George Carlin showed in never (as an adult) justifying his anti-religious screeds by calling himself a Catholic, and in never throwing stones at Catholics who merely minded their own business and went to church on Sunday. Meanwhile, in 2016, it's the Pope who is mocking people who say the Rosary.

45 posted on 09/29/2016 4:30:42 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: utahagen
The “mass audience” in theory is over 90% Christian and saying that anti-God is any different than anti-Christ is at best a stretch and more likely, just splitting a hair for self entertainment.
46 posted on 09/29/2016 4:41:30 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: Talisker

I am getting this right from the spiritual treatises of the saints. So it’s their theology you have a problem with, not mine.

http://www.cfalive.com/articles/the-horror-of-sin/

St. Ignatius of Loyola said:

“I would not for the sake of all creation, or for the purpose of saving my life, consider committing a single venial sin.”

St. Catherine of Genoa wrote:

When I had the vision in which I saw how much the shadow of the smallest act against God matters, I do not know why I did not die. I do not wonder that hell is so horrible, seeing that it is made for sin. But, horrible as it is... I think ... that even there God shows mercy, so terrible does even the shadow of a venial sin seem to me.

St. Francis of Assisi said:

Had I committed but one little sin I would have ample reason to repent of it for the rest of my life.

St. Teresa of Avila put it:

Follow the advice [to please God] until you find you have such a fixed determination not to offend the Lord that you would rather lose a thousand lives, and be persecuted by the whole world, than commit one venial sin.

Cardinal Newman wrote:

The Church holds it better for sun and moon to drop from Heaven, for the earth to fail, and for all the many millions on it to die of starvation in the most extreme agony... than that one soul... should commit one single venial sin, should tell one willful untruth or should steal one poor farthing...


47 posted on 09/29/2016 5:18:29 PM PDT by Claud
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To: forgotten man

Missing a Mass is a mortal sin?

That’s sorta harsh


48 posted on 09/29/2016 5:28:36 PM PDT by chesley (The right to protest is not the right to disrupt.)
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To: utahagen

Won’t do any good. Once you’re dead, your eternal fate is sealed


49 posted on 09/29/2016 5:35:40 PM PDT by chesley (The right to protest is not the right to disrupt.)
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To: Rashputin

Nine out of ten ex-Catholics I know make a point of saying that they still believe in Jesus and God, that their grudges are against “the Church”. Are they being fair and rational? I don’t think so. However, people often aren’t fair and rational.


50 posted on 09/29/2016 5:47:04 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: Rashputin

Nine out of ten ex-Catholics I know make a point of saying that they still believe in Jesus and God, that their grudges are against “the Church”. Are they being fair and rational? I don’t think so. However, people often aren’t fair and rational.


51 posted on 09/29/2016 5:47:09 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: Claud
I am getting this right from the spiritual treatises of the saints. So it’s their theology you have a problem with, not mine.

I have no problem with their theology. Their theology was, first and foremost, loving God. That was their teaching and example. From that practice, and its resulting acceptance by God, they developed their views of sin, because sin was the opposite of their practice of loving God. And so to them, anything that got in the way of their communion was anathema - even what people call venial sins. But that came only as a result of loving God.

Love God, love God, love God. From that love comes divine living guidance and total real time protection.

All else is trivial.

That is my understanding.

52 posted on 09/29/2016 8:21:04 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Rashputin

When are retailers going to quit this stuff? People just want to pay and get the hell out.


53 posted on 09/30/2016 3:49:09 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: Talisker

Well, yes, it all flows from love of God as a first principle. But that doesn’t make sin any less black or horrible, is my point.

When people’s consciences are dulled by sin they cannot adequately visualize or comprehend the Love of God.

It often takes the jolt of realizing how horrible sin is, to get one on the road to repentance. It took Oscar Wilde being thrown in jail for him to realize what a life he was leading.

Priests or even we layfolk who minimize the horror of sin are denying people the rebuke (in charity of course) that justice demands. We cause scandal, and you remember what Christ said about that.


54 posted on 09/30/2016 4:02:10 AM PDT by Claud
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To: utahagen
Arguing over distinctions without a difference is fruitless.Arguing over whether a synonym is appropriate is fruitless.
Nine out of ten ex-Catholics were baptized as infants and never Catholic beyond their childhood.
You're right, people aren't fair and rational, they'll beat a dead horse for a month.
55 posted on 09/30/2016 4:02:57 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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