Posted on 05/26/2016 2:43:41 PM PDT by NYer
I have said for years that the SSPX could be reconciled without all sorts of doctrinal declarations about points in Vatican II documents.
I see this at the NCRegister:
Cardinal Müller Expects SSPX to Recognize Disputed Council Teachings
Cardinal Gerhard Müller has said he expects the Society of St. Pius X, which has always opposed the Second Vatican Council’s declarations on religious freedom and ecumenism, to “unreservedly recognize” freedom of religion as a human right, and an obligation to ecumenism.
In an interview in the June edition of the German publication Herder Korrespondenz, the prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith said that if one “wants to be fully Catholic, one must recognize the Pope and the Second Vatican Council.”
Cardinal Müller said he expects a recognition of all the Council declarations that deal with these issues, according to the interview, reported on the Austrian Catholic website, Kathpress, May 24.
His comments come after reports that the Society of St. Pius X, which continues to oppose key teachings of the Second Vatican Council regarding ecumenism, freedom of religion and aspects of liturgical reform, may be close to being recognized by the Holy See.
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I am hearing things in the background.
Friends… I think this is going to happen.
Catholic ping!
Does Cardinal Muller recognize disputed Church teachings? Do his fellow German cardinals?
Getting out the popcorn!
Recognize them in which way? In the affirmative or in the negative?
Do these “disputed Church teachings” include the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ alongside “freedom of religion” and “ecumenism”?
Like I keep saying: “Only Nixon could go to China.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_goes_to_China
Sure, of course! We call that 3-21. But I’m guessing your question was rhetorical; with your deep knowledge of these matters you no doubt realize this is all settled except for a few stragglers who need to be humiliated (since they cannot actually be beaten) into submission.
Was a nice religion while it lasted, but the true Church is divine and is lurking somewhere around here until the end of time. SSPX and trads could focus on the Tridentine mass and forget about doctrinal hair-splitting (because they have now lost the battle so why ostracize themselves). They may then find the power of the Blessed Sacrament as it directly touches communicants may renew the Church in ways now obscured to our human minds.
What are you babbling about now?
If you think questioning the physical, bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ, as Mueller does, is “doctrinal hair-splitting”, I don’t see how you would consider giving Holy Communion to unrepentant public adulterers as a problem.
I'm not sure I am following this either.
Whatever you call it, folks (sspx, trads, whatever label) who believe (’still believe’?) in the literal Resurrection may be the real salt of the earth that may renew the Church not by all their yammering and blogging and arguing, but by their devotion, because it’s the Grace of God that will bring the renewal, not internal apologetics.
The Tridentine mass is everything, Christ on earth until the end! We are losing the essence of the very thing to cling to. Leave the theology to the big guys, because we cannot win in that department. So teach children and friends, don’t dictate to bishops. By letting go of egotistical insistence on being “right” about everything from beeswax to dogma, and simply, childlike, clinging to The Sacrament, God will reward that beautiful devotion by HIS grace.
The “true” faithful (sspx, trads, tridentiners, whoever, I dare not presume to guess) will not see their hopes realized by working in opposition to the hierarchical human organization that God cleverly interwove beyond recognition (to make it hard to leave) with his divine living Church.
By ‘hair-splitting’ I meant the fatal fault of concentrating on a tiny thread and missing the weave, weft, pattern and silken loveliness of the whole tapestry. The Church needs and yearns for both!
However, I would point out that if it weren't for the likes of Archbishop Lefebrve/SSPX fighting in the wake of Vatican II, there may not be a Tridentine mass anywhere right now.
My concern would be that the SSPX gets normalized with the Modernists to the point where the doctrinal issues are not addressed. And, with respect to the liturgy (which is just one part of the problem) do you truly believe that with the likes of Francis at the helm that the Tridentine Mass will remain available in the Novus Ordo Church?
It would be nice to just let the "big guys" do it all like the way the church operated pre-Vatican II, but reality has shown that they aren't doing their jobs.
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