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To: vladimir998

The individual councils have been collectively received by the Church. That is the bottom line criteria in Orthodoxy. They are recognized by all of the canonical Orthodox Churches as having the same standing as the first eight Councils,. So yes, they collectively constitute the IX Great and Holy Council of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.


4 posted on 01/30/2016 7:30:47 AM PST by NRx (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: NRx

“The individual councils have been collectively received by the Church.”

No, only the Orthodox Churches. The Church has not collectively received the series of Eastern Orthodox (read mostly Greek) synods from the 1340s.

“That is the bottom line criteria in Orthodoxy. They are recognized by all of the canonical Orthodox Churches as having the same standing as the first eight Councils.”

Which is an irrelevant recognition since national/ethnic Churches cannot supersede the universal authority of the Church.

“So yes, they collectively constitute the IX Great and Holy Council of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.”

Except that they aren’t a council but a series of synods, and no “recognition” can displace the fact that the Ninth Ecumenical Council of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church already happened in 1123.

Other than that, gee, everything is just hunky-dory.

By the way, even some Eastern Orthodox would reject the 1340s synods as being “Ecumenical Councils”:

“When asked whether the forthcoming council [2016] is ecumenical, Legoyda said: “The council, the preparation of which is entering its final phase, is called the Holy and Great, sometimes Pan-Orthodox. Calling it ecumenical is not accepted and is incorrect. The last ecumenical council was convened in Nicaea in 787, and since then such councils have not convened. Following the schism in 1054, ecumenical councils were held in the West. However, in the East they are not recognized as such…””

http://www.pravmir.com/russian-orthodox-church-consider-2016-orthodox-council-ecumenical/

So, if the Russkies don’t accept the 1340s synods as “Ecumenical” are they no longer Orthodox, or are you just blowing smoke about it being “Ecumenical”?


5 posted on 01/30/2016 7:49:28 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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