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Will the (Catholic) Church Get Hit by the Backlash Against Islam?
Crisis Magazine ^ | December 23, 2015 | WILLIAM KILPATRICK

Posted on 01/05/2016 10:31:42 AM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 01/05/2016 10:31:42 AM PST by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 01/05/2016 10:32:02 AM PST by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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After 1400 year’s of constant attacks by Islam, I’m dumbfounded by any serious Catholic who apologizes for Islam.

You are an infidel, and therefore an enemy and subhuman. Any serious “scholar” of Islam, any well-known Imam, Mullah or Sheikh will admit this.


3 posted on 01/05/2016 10:34:50 AM PST by PGR88
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Pope Francis is a loser!


4 posted on 01/05/2016 10:34:57 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Trump and Cruz are not attacking each other. Why don't their follows take note)
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To: NYer

What Islamic backlash? Most of the elites appear to be embracing it as a useful tool.


5 posted on 01/05/2016 10:35:28 AM PST by Fhios (How about we call it a a war on sharia law?)
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After the Paris attacks, a Huffington Post article called for the "elimination of all world religions."

Except of course for their chosen religion of atheism, the worship of null! Why should there be a backlash against the Catholic Church, have I missed the Pope's call for conversion or beheadings of non believers?(at least for the last several hundred years), or for the calls for death to those that disparage Christ or the Virgin Mary?

6 posted on 01/05/2016 10:41:13 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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Define what is meant by religion. Does a spiritual or metaphysical God have to be a component? The reason I ask is because nothing seems more like religion to me than the American left.


7 posted on 01/05/2016 10:41:16 AM PST by pallis
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“Except of course for their chosen religion of atheism, the worship of null!”

Worship of SELF is more like it. Not so much disagreeing with your point as refining it!


8 posted on 01/05/2016 10:43:35 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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Critics of the Vatican's Islam policy don't necessarily view the Church as a collaborator with Islam, but they see it as increasingly out of touch with reality.

I mentioned before, I was astounded a person like Pope Francis who is in the religion business, doesn't know much about a competitive religion like Islam, especially since they have been killing Christians for 1400 years.

I would expect a Catholic Pope to know about Judaism , Zoroastrianism,Islam, Hinduism, Mormonism etc.

This Pope is as dangerous to Catholicism, as Obama is to America. -Tom

9 posted on 01/05/2016 11:09:13 AM PST by Capt. Tom
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We have survived bad popes before and we will survive this bad pope as well.


10 posted on 01/05/2016 12:33:06 PM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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Good piece. thanks for posting. The comments are instructive as well. Especially the analogy with the German army and Nazis.


11 posted on 01/05/2016 12:49:17 PM PST by STJPII
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Catholic Church is going down and will die - claim #467898765544333

Next.....

What a claptrap screed. Friday Funnies already?!


12 posted on 01/05/2016 1:12:49 PM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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... the worship of null


13 posted on 01/05/2016 1:32:24 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Fhios
What Islamic backlash? Most of the elites appear to be embracing it as a useful tool.

Hence, the backlash. Read the article through for the full understanding of its impact.

14 posted on 01/05/2016 3:23:51 PM PST by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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To: DuncanWaring
I have two large Gahan Wilson books, I love him because he is almost as tweaked as me!
15 posted on 01/05/2016 3:37:31 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: pallis
The reason I ask is because nothing seems more like religion to me than the American left.

That's pretty scary but not surprising. You may recall Joseph Ratzinger, the predecessor of Pope Francis, addressed this issue, from a christian perspective, in the homily he delivered at the mass that preceded his election as Pope Benedict XVI. His words have haunted me ever since he delivered them 11 years ago and will definitely clarify what you are expressing.

How many winds of doctrine have we known in recent decades, how many ideological currents, how many ways of thinking. The small boat of the thought of many Christians has often been tossed about by these waves - flung from one extreme to another: from Marxism to liberalism, even to libertinism; from collectivism to radical individualism; from atheism to a vague religious mysticism; from agnosticism to syncretism and so forth. Every day new sects spring up, and what St Paul says about human deception and the trickery that strives to entice people into error (cf. Eph 4: 14) comes true.

Today, having a clear faith based on the Creed of the Church is often labeled as fundamentalism. Whereas relativism, that is, letting oneself be "tossed here and there, carried about by every wind of doctrine", seems the only attitude that can cope with modern times. We are building a dictatorship of relativism that does not recognize anything as definitive and whose ultimate goal consists solely of one's own ego and desires.

We, however, have a different goal: the Son of God, the true man. He is the measure of true humanism. An "adult" faith is not a faith that follows the trends of fashion and the latest novelty; a mature adult faith is deeply rooted in friendship with Christ. It is this friendship that opens us up to all that is good and gives us a criterion by which to distinguish the true from the false, and deceipt from truth.

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Don't be deluded by liberalism. It is like the vortex of a tornado that sucks you in.

16 posted on 01/05/2016 3:42:24 PM PST by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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I had forgotten this speech...his emphasis on a relationship with Jesus Christ rather than ‘The Church’ or the man who is pope is Faith and Belief.


17 posted on 01/05/2016 5:32:22 PM PST by Tarasaramozart
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To: NYer

Jesus is the TRUTH.

Catholics should follow the Truth and be about the Truth.

While I am not an expert on various religions, it appears that they, including Islam, were founded by men and they do not proclaim all the Truth or Love that Jesus expressed. Many seem to express hatred and condone violence in the name of their God.

While the mission of the Catholic Church is to help all attain everlasting life with God, and they want to share their christian love with others (perhaps by damning the sin and not the sinner), the Catholic Church needs to fully proclaim the Truth just as Jesus did.

And realize that in proclaiming the TRUTH,that some will not believe.


18 posted on 01/06/2016 7:49:06 AM PST by ADSUM
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I am unaware of any atheist backlash against islam. To the contrary, they seem to regard sharia law as a protection against chrstian "theocracy."

But the author gets that the Catholic Church in America, with its big city immigrant Democrat culture, alienates America's rural people. However, it is not merely islamophilia, but its liberal politics, its evolutionism, its higher criticism, its reflexive condemnations of any and all Biblical fundamentalism or "literalism," its pro-gun control, its knee-jerk anti-Zionism and pro-"palestinianism," and its hostility to rural America.

I often wonder how the American Catholic Church and Generalissimo Franco are part of the same religion.

19 posted on 01/06/2016 8:33:45 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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An all round disaster.


20 posted on 01/06/2016 8:50:10 AM PST by Let's Roll (So much left-wing thought is playing with fire by those who don't even know fire is hot - Orwell)
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