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What Muslims Really Believe: An illuminating look at the key research on this subject.
Frontpage Mag ^ | 01/03/2016 | JOhn Perazzo

Posted on 01/03/2016 6:09:35 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Eric Holder once called the United States "a nation of cowards," when he claimed that Americans are largely afraid to have an honest discussion about race. He was partially correct: Leftists like Holder are fearful of discussing race in any manner that depicts African Americans as something other than the perpetual, pathetic victims of white bloodlust and simpleminded bigotry. The meek responses that Bernie Sanders, Martin O'Malley, and Hillary Clinton recently bleated out when confronted by some of the aggressive racists in the Black Lives Matter movement, were classic illustrations of this cowardice.

Equally pitiful has been the Left's propensity for turning two blind eyes to the very obvious problems posed by Islam and the value system inherent in its scriptures. For the most part, leftists are content to simply depict anyone who's willing to have a substantive conversation about those problems, as a dimwit, a Nazi, or both. Thus, when Donald Trump recently suggested that it would be advisable to temporarily stop Muslim immigration into the U.S. until the government is able to get its woefully deficient vetting process in order, he was instantly ridiculed and excoriated by a conga line of glib, self-congratulating know-nothings. Hillary Clinton, for instance, called Trump's remarks "reprehensible, prejudiced and divisive." Dawud Walid of the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations characterized Trump's proposal as "fascist." Martin O'Malley called Trump "a fascist demagogue." CNN national security analyst Peter Bergen saw, in Trump, "the traits of a proto-fascist." And White House spokesman Josh Earnest informed us that Trump's remarks "disqualif[y] him from serving as president."

Not to be outdone, numerous high-profile Republicans showed themselves to be just as cowardly, and just as dumb, as the aforementioned leftists. House Speaker Paul Ryan said that Trump's views are "not what this party stands for and more importantly … not what this country stands for," given that "freedom of religion is a fundamental constitutional principle." Jeb Bush's assessment was more pithy, calling Trump "unhinged." Chris Christie portrayed Trump's remarks as "the kind of thing that people say when they have no experience and don't know what they're talking about." Lindsey Graham warned that Trump's "bombastic rhetoric" was "downright dangerous." And John Kasich cited Trump's words as proof that he "is entirely unsuited to lead the United States."

Implicit in each of these criticisms is the premise that newcomers from all faith traditions are more-or-less equally able, and equally willing, to assimilate into Western society, embrace Western values, and abide by Western laws; in other words, that it ultimately makes no difference what religion is practiced by those who immigrate to America. But quite frankly, no informed individual could possibly believe such a thing, particularly in light of the fact that in recent years researchers have accumulated a great deal of data regarding the attitudes, beliefs, and allegiances of Muslims around the world. Consider just a few of these vital facts, and contemplate whether you think they should at least be factored into the formulation of American immigration and refugee policy:

To what degree can we reasonably expect newcomers from places like these to assimilate into Western society? What problems, if any, are likely to arise from their views regarding the use of suicide bombings against civilians; their support for genocidal terror groups; their low regard for Westerners generally; their profound hatred of Jews; their unwavering rejection of women's rights; their opposition to freedom of religion and freedom of thought; their preferred criminal-justice practices; their support for varying degrees of authoritarian theocracy; and their views regarding marriage and sexuality? Do such considerations even merit a conversation? Or should we simply be content to console ourselves with soothing bromides about the unquestioned importance of "diversity"--until the values and traditions that have long bound our society together are entirely dissolved by the multiculturalist delusions and fairy tales of the Left?



TOPICS: Islam; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: islam; muslims
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1 posted on 01/03/2016 6:09:35 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

+1


2 posted on 01/03/2016 6:12:47 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (When in Rome, do like you done in Milledgeville. - Flannery O'Connor)
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To: SeekAndFind

Islam is “religion” based on cruelty to the unbeliever. Unbelievers can be other Muslims from other sects of Islam or non-Muslims. Muhammad was a child rapist, slave trader, slave master, sex slave trafficker, kidnapper, genocidal mass murderer, blissful torturer, thief and liar. This and more is well documented in the Koran and Hadith.

The Muslims joining ISIS are just Muslims wanting to be “Good Muslims.” They want to follow the way of their prophet. In the exact way Muhammad lived and ruled. No amount of sugar coating or mumbling about “moderate” Muslims will change that. “Radicalized” Muslims are simply Muslims who want to be “Good Muslims” in their host country according to the very same Koran and Hadith.


3 posted on 01/03/2016 6:14:26 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2banana
Islam is “religion” based on cruelty to the unbeliever.

A cross between Adlerian "will to power" psychology and what I call a multi-level-marketing scheme for pirates. The Imams collect from everyone at a lower level.

We are so nuts as a country to allow these people to immigrate, and even to allow Islam as a prison religion, where proven evil-doers are promised paradise if they can control themselves just a little bit (no bacon), and then can work out their issues on unbelievers, with support from the Ummah.

4 posted on 01/03/2016 6:19:14 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: SeekAndFind

Bloody inbred Muslim savages, the entire lot of them!

Some live in caves, some ride in goldplated Cadillacs, but they’re all the same when it comes to us “infidels”.


5 posted on 01/03/2016 6:21:40 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t give a crap WHAT they believe.


6 posted on 01/03/2016 6:29:15 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: SeekAndFind

I kinda wish people would drop mention of Muslim attitudes about homosexuality from such list.

There’s no reason to include any sense, even just by implication by reason of including them on such lists, that perverts should be believed to be anything but perverts.


7 posted on 01/03/2016 6:31:02 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

Search of this page fails to yield a meaningful response to the query What Book?


8 posted on 01/03/2016 6:32:50 PM PST by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: SeekAndFind

Any person following islam is a MORON as a fact. islam requires one to be an idiot first and a moron second.

To follow islam is to follow Satan.


9 posted on 01/03/2016 6:37:54 PM PST by soycd
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To: SeekAndFind

bump


10 posted on 01/03/2016 6:56:26 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Look, the establishment doesn't want me, because I don't need the establishment." --Donald Trump)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is sickening. Most Western Muslims don’t seem to take the Koran quite so literally — though plenty do.

Perhaps that’s why they’re no longer in the Middle East.


11 posted on 01/03/2016 7:00:20 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Good article. Churchill also nailed it:

CHURCHILL ON ISLAM

Unbelievable, but the speech below was written in 1899.

The attached short speech from Winston Churchill, was delivered by him in 1899 when he was a young soldier and journalist. It probably sets out the current views of many, but expresses in the wonderful Churchillian turn of phrase and use of the English language, of which he was a past master. Sir Winston Churchill was, without doubt, one of the greatest men of the late19th and 20th centuries. He was a brave young soldier, a brilliant journalist, an extraordinary politician and statesman, a great war leader and British Prime Minister, to whom the Western world must be forever in his debt.

He was a prophet in his own time. He died on 24th January 1965, at the grand old age of 90 and, after a lifetime of service to his country, was accorded a State funeral. HERE IS THE SPEECH:

"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome." - Sir Winston Churchill; (Source: The River War, first edition, Vol II, pages 248-250 London).

12 posted on 01/03/2016 7:38:04 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Whatever else we can say about the prophet Mohammed, with certainty we can say that when he died he was judged by Jesus Christ, as will we be. We cannot know here and now what that judgement was, but I suspect M. was a bit surprised.


13 posted on 01/03/2016 8:00:43 PM PST by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

See? Out of all those things, they are right about one.


14 posted on 01/03/2016 8:12:18 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: Rurudyne

Only 3% of Muslims say homosexuality is acceptable, but the number who practice pederasty seems to be quite a bit higher, at least in Afghanistan.


15 posted on 01/03/2016 8:22:01 PM PST by heartwood
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To: SeekAndFind

What A Fool Believes.


16 posted on 01/03/2016 9:18:38 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Art in Idaho

John Quincy Adams on Islam:

In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust, by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE.

Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. That war is yet flagrant; nor can it cease but by the extinction of that imposture, which has been permitted by Providence to prolong the degeneracy of man. While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men. The hand of Ishmael will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him. It is, indeed, amongst the mysterious dealings of God, that this delusion should have been suffered for so many ages, and during so many generations of human kind, to prevail over the doctrines of the meek and peaceful and benevolent Jesus (Blunt, 1830, 29:269, capitals in orig.).


17 posted on 01/03/2016 9:31:54 PM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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Interesting comments from John Quincy Adams . Thanks for posting. We are at war with Islam and have been for a long time. Anyone who disagrees has a severe case of denial.
18 posted on 01/03/2016 10:03:23 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: heartwood

I was not referring to Muslim attitudes about homosexuality but about the perceived attitudes of those who drew up the list.


19 posted on 01/04/2016 8:37:52 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: heartwood

Also, about pederasty that you bring up: I wonder if those lonely Taliban with their sheep that our troops inadvertently filmed thought they were in the clear morally for similar “reasons”?


20 posted on 01/04/2016 8:53:50 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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