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To: Arthur McGowan

What they may be saying, and you may be missing (are you defending your own pride?) is that we shouldn’t go in there pride-first or else we will get misled to the ill in some manner.


75 posted on 12/27/2015 10:33:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

That’s precisely what I find obnoxious. The video presents a perfectly rational, science-based exposition concerning what appeared in the sky at the time of the events recounted in the gospel, and a bunch of prigs have to jump in with moralistic warnings against “pride” or “knowledge that puffs up,” or railing (unjustly) against the people who made the video as needing “scientific proof” as a SUBSTITUTE for faith.

None of these failings was the SLIGHTEST bit in evidence in the video. I.e., the posters were simply exploiting an opening for some moral preening, some posturing as people of superior and purer faith, scolding, and consigning “the proud” to a lake of fire.

Faith needs MOTIVES, and scientific data are perfectly appropriate motives, among many others. Jesus provided motives when he worked miracles and made arguments. This notion that faith is real and meritorious only when we blindly and irrationally affirm whatever seems to be said in the Scriptures is one mark of a degenerate, brainless religious tradition.


97 posted on 12/28/2015 9:00:15 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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