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Britain no longer a Christian country, and it’s time to rid public life of Anglicanism, panel says
The National Post ^ | December 7, 2015 | John Bingham and Steven Swinford, The Telegraph

Posted on 12/07/2015 9:52:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

LONDON — Britain is no longer a Christian country and should stop acting as if it is, a top-level inquiry into the place of religion in society has concluded, provoking a backlash from politicians and the Church of England.

A two-year commission, chaired by the former senior judge Baroness Butler-Sloss and involving leading religious leaders of all faiths, calls for public life to be systematically de-Christianized.

It says the decline of church-going and the rise of Islam and other beliefs mean a “new settlement” is needed for religion in the U.K., giving more official influence to non-religious voices and those of non-Christian faiths.

The report triggered a quarrel Sunday night as it was condemned by cabinet ministers as “seriously misguided,” while the Church of England said it appeared to have been “hijacked” by humanists....

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TOPICS: Current Events; History; Mainline Protestant; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: 68revolution; anglican; anglicanism; anglicans; britain; churchofengland; disestablishment; england; islamicimperialism; panel; thereisnoenglandnow; uk; waronterror
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1 posted on 12/07/2015 9:52:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Soon to be Sweden,France,Germany,Italy,etc,oh yea the United States.


2 posted on 12/07/2015 9:56:08 PM PST by crosdaddy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does Englishland have a constitutional protection of religion?

No?

Well then sod off.


3 posted on 12/07/2015 10:03:15 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The goal of Socialism is Communism. Marx and Lenin were in agreement on this.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This does not surprise me at all.

Soviet Britain sold their souls a long time ago.

4 posted on 12/07/2015 10:05:53 PM PST by dbehsman (Attention liberals and liberaltarians, Judgment Day is coming. You've earned it!)
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To: crosdaddy

A lot of this has to do with the way religion is ensconced in the government of the UK. I don’t know if there is much to compare, other than the general decline in Christianity everywhere.


5 posted on 12/07/2015 10:06:31 PM PST by sparklite2 (Islam = all bathwater, no baby.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If so, RIP, Britian.


6 posted on 12/07/2015 10:10:58 PM PST by boycott (--)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Makes me want to re-read Good-Bye Mr. Chips ( I know the author was a closeted socialist), but just for how Christianity and scholasticism with national pride were woven seamlessly in school life.


7 posted on 12/07/2015 10:37:13 PM PST by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: lulu16

Nicely said. Here in America it used to be that way. Children saying the Pledge every morning, teachers teaching pride in America and her great accomplishments...


8 posted on 12/07/2015 10:38:36 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I like to destroy the Turks (Moslims))
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To: sparklite2
...the general decline in Christianity everywhere.

Really?

The Astounding Growth Of The World's Largest Religion ~ Christianity: Charts & Maps


9 posted on 12/07/2015 10:52:37 PM PST by Albion Wilde ("Look, the establishment doesn't want me, because I don't need the establishment." --Donald Trump)
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To: miss marmelstein
We would be happy to lend England our Consitution and Bill of Rights.

I have always wondered why the Eggheads in the State Department did not "gift" our Constitution to Iraq and Afghanistan.

It shows they do not really believe in America. They perfer something more "continental". And this was under Bush Jr. Instead of structure like ours, they gave Iraq a parliamentary system, that does less to ensure minority rights. And, guess what, the majority acted badly, pissed off the minority and the country fractured.

No first Amendment in Afghanistan. Why not? Are we fighting a war to give Islam a preeminent place in some countries?

Another huge failure of the Bush administration.

10 posted on 12/07/2015 10:55:00 PM PST by Jack Black ( "Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am not Anglican but I firmly believe that if the monarch goes along with the wholesale rejection of Christianity in public life England will fall.


11 posted on 12/07/2015 10:56:44 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Great stuff.

But the survey greatly under reports Buddhist/Taoists.


12 posted on 12/07/2015 10:59:35 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Albion Wilde

I stand corrected. In which case, the goings on in the UK don’t relate to conditions in the US, so the lament that “this is coming to the US next” doesn’t track.


13 posted on 12/07/2015 11:01:24 PM PST by sparklite2 (Islam = all bathwater, no baby.)
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To: Jack Black

I just want Americans to believe in our Constitution and Bill of Rights! It seems we have a generation of young people who either reject it or don’t understand it.


14 posted on 12/07/2015 11:05:06 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I like to destroy the Turks (Moslims))
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To: miss marmelstein

I long for those days to repeat themselves, to stand up as a great people, who were divinely inspired, who brought about the best country the world has ever created, and to be an example to the rest of the world of what potential with have if we only acknowledge God’s grace towards us.

Have a blessed Christmas, miss marmelstein


15 posted on 12/07/2015 11:17:34 PM PST by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Considering that the ArchBishop of Canterbury was all in favor of instituting sharia law in Britain, this is hardly shocking. Probably the Archbishop himself made the suggestion.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1578017/Adopt-sharia-law-in-Britain-says-the-Archbishop-of-Canterbury-Dr-Rowan-Williams.html


16 posted on 12/08/2015 12:24:15 AM PST by aquila48
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Time to pull out the French Flag


17 posted on 12/08/2015 12:28:17 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (When they want your opinion the MSM and GOPe will give it to you)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Christian faith needs a revial/resurrection
but whether the Church of England, or its official establishment in the government, is the vehicle for this change... is far less clear. (One thing that IS clear is that UK needs to repatriate its Moslems back to their own countries before the Moslems take over UK lock/stock/and barrel.

This from the Queen’s webpage outlines the COE’s official establishment:

The Sovereign holds the title ‘Defender of the Faith and Supreme Governor of the Church of England’.

There are many examples of the relationship between the established Church and the State.

Archbishops and bishops are appointed by The Queen on the advice of the Prime Minister, who considers the names selected by a Church Commission. They take an oath of allegiance to The Queen on appointment and may not resign without Royal authority.

The connection between Church and State is also symbolised by the fact that the ‘Lords Spiritual’ (consisting of the Archbishops of Canterbury and York and 24 diocesan bishops) sit in the House of Lords. Parish priests also take an oath of allegiance to The Queen.

The General Synod (including the bishops, elected representatives from the clergy and the laity) is the supreme authority of the Church of England. The Queen opens the Synod after the elections in the dioceses every five years.

Since 1919, the Synod (formerly called the Church Assembly) has had the power to pass Measures on any matter concerning the Church of England.

Following acceptance of the Measures by both Houses of Parliament (which cannot amend them), they are submitted for Royal Assent and become law.

In addition to legislating for the Church by Measure, the General Synod has the power to legislate by Canon in its own domestic affairs such as worship and doctrine, but The Queen’s assent is required for the promulgation of such Canons. Such assent is given on the Home Secretary’s advice.

In his or her coronation oath, the Sovereign promises to maintain the Church.

The Sovereign must be in communion with the Church of England, that is, a full, confirmed member.

The Preface to the 39 Articles of the Church of England describes the monarch as ‘being by God’s Ordinance, according to Our just Title, Defender of the Faith and ... Supreme Governor of the Church of England’


18 posted on 12/08/2015 12:31:10 AM PST by faithhopecharity (Brilliant, funny, and incisive Tagline coming to this space soon.....)
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To: sparklite2
I don't know how the survey was done, and if they counted Christians as self-reported, church members or ethnics (a theological impossibliity). I agree in principle that there is an appalling lack of Biblical literacy these days, and many in the pews are truly ignorant of what the Word actually says and means. So we're both right.

But in nations where Christianity is or has been recently persecuted, like China and Korea, and also in Africa, the Word is more cherished and powerfully kept. African bishops are taking American and British Anglican congregations under their wings because of the force-feeding of gay "rights" in Western churches. My African friends are strong, witnessing Christians.

19 posted on 12/08/2015 1:11:01 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("Look, the establishment doesn't want me, because I don't need the establishment." --Donald Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

How bad does it have to get before Crusades are organized again? Or is it too late?


20 posted on 12/08/2015 1:33:40 AM PST by oldasrocks (They should lock all of you up and only let out us properly medicated people.)
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