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Pope Francis – “Fundamentalism is a Sickness”
LifeSiteNews ^ | 30 Nov 2015 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 12/01/2015 9:56:27 AM PST by amorphous

ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE, November 30, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) -- On the plane returning from his journey to Africa today Pope Francis made his clearest remarks in condemnation of 'fundamentalist' Catholics.

"Fundamentalism is a sickness that is in all religions," Francis said, as reported by the National Catholic Reporter's Vatican correspondent, Joshua McElwee, and similarly by other journalists on the plane. "We Catholics have some -- and not some, many -- who believe in the absolute truth and go ahead dirtying the other with calumny, with disinformation, and doing evil."

"They do evil," said the pope. "I say this because it is my church."

"We have to combat it," he said. "Religious fundamentalism is not religious, because it lacks God. It is idolatry, like the idolatry of money."

Turning to Islam, the pope spoke of his friendship with a Muslim, adding, "You cannot cancel out a religion because there are some groups, or many groups in a certain point of history, of fundamentalists."

"Like everything, there are religious people with values and those without," he said. "But how many wars ... have Christians made? The sacking of Rome was not done by Muslims, eh?"

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TOPICS: Moral Issues; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: francis; fundamentalism; pope; truth
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To: Gay State Conservative

I’m a Southern Baptist, but still I miss B16.


21 posted on 12/01/2015 10:19:37 AM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: amorphous
The sacking of Rome was not done by Muslims, eh?"

The sacking of Constantinople was, eh?

22 posted on 12/01/2015 10:20:17 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: amorphous
"But how many wars ... have Christians made? The sacking of Rome was not done by Muslims, eh?"

The Vandals and Goths were Christians???

23 posted on 12/01/2015 10:22:36 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Beware of the grievance-industrial complex)
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To: Fred Hayek

I pray DAILY for Pope Benedict XVI.


24 posted on 12/01/2015 10:23:32 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE MAKE YOUR DONATION NOW - GO MONTHLY IF YOU POSSIBLY & RELIABLY CAN!)
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To: Fred Hayek
I’m a Southern Baptist, but still I miss B16.

I'm ashamed to admit that I didn't focus much attention on Benedict XVI.I suspect it's distinctly possible that he was a good,or even outstanding,Pope and I just don't realize it.

25 posted on 12/01/2015 10:24:04 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
"He is a total leftist. How sad for Catholics."

He goes way beyond being a leftist to being a postmodern relativist. He is essentially saying that "God" is relative to whatever a given collective at any given point in time wants him to be. He does not believe in the immutability of God or an objective God at all. This goes against 2000 years of Catholic dogma regarding the nature of God. I can say this as a Protestant because both Protestant and Catholic dogma on the innate nature of God is identical; as is Jewish dogma in this regard. A relativistic "god" is meaningless and ultimately nothing but idolatry.

26 posted on 12/01/2015 10:26:19 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Mrs. Don-o
So, there's a definition problem here. POpe Francis isn't using (whatever-word-in-Italian) "fundamentalist" to mean...

Sorry Mrs. Don-o, but I wonder if Pope Francis is even in the atmosphere, much less the weeds, as is what you're describing.

Respectfully, IMO, he is ignorant of Islam. He needs to study it as closely as he claims to have studied the problem of 'global-warming' and he needs to read Isaiah 5:20.

27 posted on 12/01/2015 10:29:13 AM PST by amorphous
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"So although Pope Francis certainly does say very dubious things from time to time, IN THIS CASE he is not insulting Protestantism or Evangelicalism per se."

No, what Francis is doing here is attacking the notion of objective truth and ultimately an objective, immutable God. This is rank idolatry.

28 posted on 12/01/2015 10:30:24 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Zuben Elgenubi
There are some who would argue that the dark ages were indeed brought about by the rise of Muhammadanism.

This pretty wise man on the subject for one:

Bill Warner, PhD: Why We Are Afraid: 1400 Years of Fear

29 posted on 12/01/2015 10:33:04 AM PST by amorphous
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To: CdMGuy

I also subscribed to the “he’s a Jesuit” idea. Maybe you are correct but I remember a Jesuit priest at Mass years ago. His homily was bizarre to say the least. We all left church shaking our heads. We talked to a number of people on the way out and we all concluded that if we followed his advice it didn’t matter if we were Christian, Hindu, or no religion. Bizarre is not strong enough. We couldn’t believe it.


30 posted on 12/01/2015 10:40:17 AM PST by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: amorphous

>> Wow, I hesitate to criticize any man of God.

Me too, which is why I have no qualms whatsoever about attacking Francis.


31 posted on 12/01/2015 10:42:36 AM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: amorphous

Where’s the hurl alert?


32 posted on 12/01/2015 10:55:26 AM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: amorphous
Yeah, the “fundamentalists” are so terrible, aren't they?

Would John the Baptist have been labeled as a “fundamentalist”? Or how about St. Thomas Aquinas? Or St. Vincent de Paul?

I think I'd rather hang with those guys than the Christian “superficialists” that seem to be en vogue these days!

33 posted on 12/01/2015 10:56:40 AM PST by dbehsman (Attention liberals and liberaltarians, Judgment Day is coming. You've earned it!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The Vandals and Goths were Christians???

Yes.

34 posted on 12/01/2015 11:03:46 AM PST by edwinland
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To: amorphous
"Fundamentalism is a sickness that is in all religions,"

Wow, just wow! Following the words of God is a sickness to this Pope? Is that not the definition of your supposed job?

If the religion is evil then fundamentalism is a problem I guess if you are that much of an idiot not to see the real problem is the evil taught by an evil religion.

Sorry, Pope the Amish are not a sickness, there is a beauty in their lives. Islam is though, their is a sickness throughout all their societies, a sickness that murders and enslaves. Stupid, illogical, evil, socialist, propagandist Pope.

35 posted on 12/01/2015 11:06:24 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: Lady Heron

Somebody really explain to me what happened to the last Pope that he resigned and left the Catholic church with this evil?


36 posted on 12/01/2015 11:07:42 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: amorphous

Fundamentalist Christians aren’t killing people, but fundamentalist Muslims are.
The difference is the ideology/religion, not the secularism of the practitioners.


37 posted on 12/01/2015 11:23:29 AM PST by tbw2
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The sacking of Rome was not done by Muslims, eh?"

Spin the implications of this comment.

This Pope is dangerous. Wake up and may God bless you.

38 posted on 12/01/2015 11:27:28 AM PST by KittenClaws ( Normalcy Bias. Do you have it?)
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To: amorphous

This clown pope suffers from a mental disease that affects all leftists: he has rectitus.

This is a disease that originates in the anus, travels up the spine to the optic nerve giving the sufferer a shi—y outlook on everything.

What a disgrace to Catholicism. He is, however, riding the crest of the wave in this new religion created subsequent to the evil Vatican II.


39 posted on 12/01/2015 11:30:32 AM PST by HomerBohn (Liberals and slinkies: they're good for nothing, but you smile as you shove them down the stairs.)
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To: ifinnegan
In addition to being oxymoronic in his main message, one needs to ask is this guy sane?

He's just as sane as any other Narcissist mired in Liberal illogicality and experiencing megalomaniacal delusions.

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Shock! Pope Francis unequivocally condemns tens of millions worldwide!

"Too bad those tens of millions are involved in a perfectly legitimate enterprise that has long been found as perfectly justifiable by the Church. That's how it reads to me, anyway, when he indulged in this...I have to call it a rant...today at Casa Santa Marta. So apparently fornicators, adulterers, and even sodomites are beyond judgment, but those involved in the defense of nations....cursed..."

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In his most apocalyptic language to date, Pope Francis told reporters aboard the papal plane returning from Africa that the COP21 climate change conference in Paris is the last chance for humanity to avert environmental destruction.

40 posted on 12/01/2015 11:45:36 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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