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Prominent Dominican publishes book claiming Thomas Aquinas said homosexuality is ‘natural’
Lifesitenews ^ | 12 November 2015 | Jeanne Smits

Posted on 11/12/2015 11:00:15 PM PST by redleghunter

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Nov. 12, 2015 (LifeSiteNews) - A Dominican friar, Fr. Adriano Oliva, has celebrated the 800th anniversary of his religious order with a book about “the Church, the divorced and remarried, and homosexual couples.”

Amours (“Loves”) is a study of St Thomas Aquinas’ definition of love and aims to show that the “Angelic Doctor” recognized the “natural” character of homosexuality. In the wake of the Synod on the family, Oliva pleads for new ways of welcoming divorced and remarried and homosexual couples into the Church and of recognizing their unions in civil law.

His editor, the “editions du Cerf” publishing house, is the historic Dominican editor in France, founded at the request of Pope Pius XI in 1929. It still functions under religious supervision.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: adrianooliva; deception; divorceandremarriage; error; heresy; homosexualagenda; thomasaquinas
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1 posted on 11/12/2015 11:00:15 PM PST by redleghunter
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To: redleghunter

Satanism


2 posted on 11/12/2015 11:05:29 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

If I remember right Aquinas was so fat that they had to cut away the table so that he could get close enough to get his spoon in the food. If so he probably considered gluttony a natural state of affairs too.

Catholics should follow Augustine not Aquinas


3 posted on 11/12/2015 11:10:25 PM PST by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: Fai Mao

Maybe follow Christ and remember God called gays obominations.


4 posted on 11/12/2015 11:14:36 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: redleghunter

This was discovered all of a sudden, hey?


5 posted on 11/12/2015 11:19:34 PM PST by lee martell
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To: redleghunter

After the Fall, man’s “normal” was certainly not God’s. I doubt Aquinas meant GOD viewed homosexuality as normal.


6 posted on 11/12/2015 11:27:59 PM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: A CA Guy

I noticed the article did not get deep into that “abomination” word.


7 posted on 11/12/2015 11:29:00 PM PST by redleghunter (Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation)
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To: redleghunter

It IS natural. It’s the natural result of turning away from God.


8 posted on 11/12/2015 11:30:32 PM PST by DouglasKC (I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
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To: avenir

That is quite a good point.

The homofacists can’t point to the Bible to make this stuff up. They have to find a theologian who relied heavily on secular philosophy.


9 posted on 11/12/2015 11:31:12 PM PST by redleghunter (Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation)
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To: lee martell

Exceptionally convenient.


10 posted on 11/12/2015 11:34:16 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: redleghunter
No more convenient that after more than four hundred years of teaching that contraception is a sin "discovering" that it's really a virtue.

That's how everything except the constant teaching of the Catholic Church based on the entire Bible and what the Apostles handed down in as Tradition works; when the pupil is inconvenienced, the teacher appears.

JMHo

11 posted on 11/13/2015 12:41:55 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: redleghunter
" homosexuality is 'natural'"

So is bubonic plague.
12 posted on 11/13/2015 12:46:10 AM PST by clearcarbon
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To: redleghunter
Prominent Dominican Publishes Book Claiming Thomas Aquinas Said Homosexuality is 'Natural'
13 posted on 11/13/2015 12:49:14 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (To restore all things in Christ. -- Pope St. Pius X /// Democrats are Cruz'n for a Bruisin' in 2016!)
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Guys, It's not good, but it it's not as bad as it could be. I skimmed the article yesterday and I hope to get the ebook so I can argue against it ... or at least understand his argument.

Aquinas was a very large man, but not obese. People would stop and stare as he walked by because he was tall and big.

Apparently, this province has some flakey friars. But a basic principle of Thomistic thought is that things have “ends.” So to use genitals in a way which precludes there natural end ... generation, and for sexual pleasure alone is perverse, unnatural, disordered.

But normally stimulation of the genitals is pleasurable. It's “natural” to seek pleasure. So, I can see an arguments which says homosexual acts are natural in a particular way, while viewed more holistically they are still unnatural, disordered, etc.

It's natural to want a second bowl of ice cream, but unnatural to eat in a way which does not build up the body and maintain one’s health.

The only reason I think he must be saying more is that anyone who spent a week on the high points of the Summa would know tnat. So why would he take the trouble.

But I don't expect reporters to care about this or even to understand it. So, I'm hanging back until I can see the text.

14 posted on 11/13/2015 1:47:45 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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To: redleghunter

I guess it depends on how one defines “natural”, doesn’t it?

Look. Sin is natural. Everyone after Adam is born with a sin nature.

So, while homosexuality isn’t in my wheelhouse of sins, impatience and laziness do arise from within me.

I hope this makes sense. God doesn’t approve of any of these behaviours.

Our sin is why he sent His Son.


15 posted on 11/13/2015 2:14:42 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: A CA Guy

“Angelic Doctor” recognized the “natural” character of homosexuality.”

So, whats happening today is not the first time homosexuals
have tried to justify their perversion by infiltrating the
Church and undermining the word of God from within.


16 posted on 11/13/2015 2:22:53 AM PST by Slambat
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To: SoFloFreeper

“I guess it depends on how one defines “natural”, doesn’t it?”

Words do mean things. Natural = Normal Right?
Isn’t “normal” functioning within ones design?
The only way I can put nature and homosexuality in the
same context is to say that,”homosexuality” is “natures”
way of saying “do not reproduce, you have nothing to contribute
to the human gene pool”.


17 posted on 11/13/2015 2:28:58 AM PST by Slambat
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To: redleghunter

I’ll go with the Apostle Paul who specifically said it was unnatural.


18 posted on 11/13/2015 2:46:37 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Fai Mao

You don’t remember right. Aquinas was not THAT, and he wasn’t known for eating a lot. Albertus Magnus was the really fat one, and I find the story you cite to be doubtful.


19 posted on 11/13/2015 3:15:02 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: redleghunter

Adultery, fornication, and polygamy are natural too. Natural Man is a degenerate sinner. For those who do not have the counsel of the Holy Spirit, all sorts of sins seem “natural”.


20 posted on 11/13/2015 3:23:33 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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