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Calling Men to a Catholic Vision of Male Spirituality
CatholicWorldReport.com ^ | 10-26-15 | Staff Interview-Deacon Harold Burke-Sivers

Posted on 10/26/2015 4:44:36 PM PDT by Salvation

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Deacon Harold is a passionate and knowledgeable speaker. I was glued to the edge of my chair during his talk when he was at our parish. I didn't want to miss a word!
1 posted on 10/26/2015 4:44:36 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Catholic Ping!

Behold the Man: A Catholic Vision of Male Spirituality


2 posted on 10/26/2015 4:46:14 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
I'm for masculinity.

Just wanted to be on the record with that.

3 posted on 10/26/2015 4:48:28 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Me too. We need the men to be lectors and Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion if they are used in your church. Plus the role model they set for their children by assisting with some part of the Mass is priceless.


4 posted on 10/26/2015 4:55:45 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Nothing wrong with masculine ...

"Any man can be thrown from an untamed horse, but it takes a real man to get back on and tame it."

5 posted on 10/26/2015 4:58:46 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Salvation

Really? Do tell....


6 posted on 10/26/2015 5:02:25 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Elections are Job Fairs for sociopaths)
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To: RKBA Democrat

If you get a chance to listen to Deacon Harold Burke Sivers, grab it. You won’t be disappointed.


7 posted on 10/26/2015 5:06:10 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I am agreement with you. The best thing a man can do as a role model is to be a man and do manly things, act manly, etc.

But, I have to say that the higher ups in the church aren't really interested in manliness. It sometimes seems to me that they are trying to destroy manliness as quickly as possible. They, in a subsequent post, are more interested in nonexistent climate change than in what they preach from the pulpit.

8 posted on 10/26/2015 5:09:33 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: Parmy
I've never heard anybody in my parish or diocese --- deacon, associate pastor, pastor, or bishop --- speak on "Climate Change" or evince any interest in it.

In addition to the Knights of Columbus, the guys in my parish are starting a Men's Spirituality group. And the Diocese is having a Retreat in Nov. for males-only, with the title "Be A Man!"

I do think I'm in a pretty good parish and diocese (Knoxville).

9 posted on 10/26/2015 5:34:12 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts.)
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To: Salvation; Alberta's Child; Mrs. Don-o; Parmy

I don’t know about any other dioceses, but women are running mine. Women have blown the men away.

As long as the parish newsletter, (sadly) calls for VOLUNTEERS(!) to be extraordinary ministers, it’s the women who clamor forth. A scandalous way to choose “ministers” who will present our Lord in Holy Communion and to choose to run an ad!! And, SOMEONE, does “choose” to do such a disgusting thing.

What ever happened to the priest speaking to and calling forth the boys and the men to the Alter, and working closely with boys and men to make them feel more vital to the Christ’s Holy Church and to the life of the parish??

Never mind the banishment to the back of the bus of boys, in both public schools and as Alter Servers. It’s been on purpose. and has certainly enjoyed its intended effects.

The attraction by boys to the priesthood is dead and the complaints calling for women priests is alive and well.

A “duh” moment, one would think.

There is one parish with a woman in her 60’s, liberal of course, a resume as long as your arm of theological merits, certificates, degrees and various and sundry other under studies, who OWNS the religious education program and the RCIA!

Women should teach— some have a gift. At the expense of men participating and masculinity getting shelved, they do need to rethink how is it that they and too many namby pamby priests, without a clue, not solely responsible for feminizing the Western Church.

Did Deacon Harold hammer that fact home, or simply remind men they are the head of the domestic home AND the Church, while just hoping for the best?

I think the Rule Book has been burned and the traditions subjected to modernism and the women.


10 posted on 10/26/2015 6:07:56 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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I attend a Tridentine Rite parish. There are no "extraordinary ministers," and there are no female altar servers.

You might want to consider looking around for a similar parish in your area. It sure helps avoid all the nonsense that passes for "Catholicism" these days.

11 posted on 10/26/2015 6:25:01 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Alberta's Child

Yes, I agree. The nearest is seven hours round trip.


12 posted on 10/26/2015 6:36:46 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Salvation; metmom; caww; boatbums
I'm for masculinity.

Just wanted to be on the record with that.

I am sure we are all for masculinity. We have a problem, however. Some say there is a war on women. My opinion is, there is a war on men going on, especially a war on conservative men. Each one of us feels like we are individuals, going up against the the entire weight of the government. It seems like when men assert their masculinity, the government is there to squash them like bugs.

Now, the Duke lacrosse players may not be a good example of this, but it is indicative of the mindset of the government, in relation to conservative men. They want us all emasculated. My sister told me, she feels the ones who will save conservative men, are conservative women.

Just my opinion. Your thoughts?

13 posted on 10/26/2015 7:06:13 PM PDT by Mark17 (Heaven, where the only thing there that's been made by man are the scars in the hands of Jesus)
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** there is a war on men going on**

Definitely, do you see this happening in non-Catholic churches, too?


14 posted on 10/26/2015 7:13:02 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

If you read what St. Isaac Jogues underwent (awaiting permission from Rome to handle the Eucharist after Indians mangled his hands), you’d never receive from anyone but a priest. Diluting the Mass to “involve” people is destroying faith.


15 posted on 10/26/2015 7:23:09 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Salvation
Definitely, do you see this happening in non-Catholic churches, too?

Well, first let me say, I am not very good at looking at situations, and reading between the lines. All I can say, is what I feel in my heart. Am I 100% right? I don't know. It would appear to me, that people would like to see masculinity too. It also appears some are a little frustrated by that. Some may not be too politically astute, and just may not be aware of this low grade war on men. It seems to me, that I see many positions being filled by women. There is not necessarily anything wrong with that, but it might indicate the mentality of those involved. After years of this low grade war on men, many men shy away from involvement, and go Galt. I don't know what the answers are, but praise God for conservative women. Again, these are just my own thoughts, based on what I observe. By no means is it scientific.

Oh my goodness, we just had an earthquake. It lasted for about 10 seconds. TV is still on, electricity is on, and water is still running. We are all ok.

16 posted on 10/26/2015 7:37:58 PM PDT by Mark17 (Heaven, where the only thing there that's been made by man are the scars in the hands of Jesus)
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To: Mark17

Your house must be built well for everything to still be going.


17 posted on 10/26/2015 7:40:36 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Your house must be built well for everything to still be going.

I hope so. I looked outside and I don't see any evidence of any damage. I immediately google searched it. They already had news on it, a 5.2 quake about 15 miles from here. I was in Northern California in 1989, for the Loma Prieta quake. I was 50 miles away, and felt it very strongly. I was just sitting down to watch the World Series game, when the house started to shake. It was scary. I don't like earthquakes very much.

18 posted on 10/26/2015 7:49:21 PM PDT by Mark17 (Heaven, where the only thing there that's been made by man are the scars in the hands of Jesus)
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To: Mark17

You are absolutely correct, sir.

I despise the way I see men treated, especially on television. That’s one of the main reasons I won’t watch most TV.

Real men need to know that there are women out there who appreciate their masculinity and don’t want feminized males. Not that a man can’t be sensitive but when they don’t act like a man, strong and confident and decisive, they come across as overgrown, whiny little boys.

Not very attractive in the least.


19 posted on 10/26/2015 8:16:20 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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..."My opinion is, there is a war on men going on, especially a war on conservative men"....

I agree and I'm a woman.... The idea there is a war on woman is just plain nonsense. If anything we as woman have lost all which made woman what they are designed for, )now thanks to these woman screaming for thier rights) and instead determined somehow we need to be not just equal to men,(BTW which we've always had as Christ made that possible), but to put men and woman down who enjoy the difference between the sex's as well as the strengths and weaknesses of both....

I'm tired of it frankly...the Obama administration has largely woman in high power positions who know nothing about national and international decision making....and look where we are!....They tie the hands of our police and military from taking out the bad guys.....falsely believe that murderous and repeat criminals will change their behavior if we "love them" rather then rid a civil society of them. And now they think by taking the right of gun ownership bad guys will somehow behave.....I won't go into how they fail to see the necessity of war or what it means to "respect" power.

But let me just say it's past time for men to take back their God given rights as men and if the woman don't like it let them b*itch and scream and cry all they want....en need to forge on and take back what they gave away....or was taken from them.

These are NOT Masculine men by any means....rather effeminate.....something other then real men...

Real Men! Yes !


20 posted on 10/26/2015 8:18:58 PM PDT by caww
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