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To: miss marmelstein

I don’t think you know much about him. He actually studied at the Legionaries of Christ seminary - this was the group founded by the odious Father Maciel, who was a polyfacetd sexual abuser who had several women but also abused young men and boys, including his own son - while at the same time building a religious order that was supposed t be known for its orthodoxy. The Polish priest met his paramour, a Catalan seminarian at the time, at the Legionaries’ seminary.

But Pope JPII protected Maciel (who was Mexican), probably because he thought the order was orthodox and maybe he didn’t believe the reports about Macel’s misdeeds. But as JPII grew weaker, Ratzinger started cracking down on Maciel, and virtually his first act as Pope was to remove Maciel from the priesthood and send him to the equivalent of a monastic jail. Maciel died shortly afterwards.

But I think the forces behind Maciel, which obviously Imcluded some Poles, were probably in alliance with the forces that had wanted to elect Bergoglio, and they were the ones who somehow forced out BXVI (possibly by threatening to blacken the name of JPII).


9 posted on 10/07/2015 7:21:14 PM PDT by livius
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To: livius

If this priest had stayed in Poland, I don’t think he would have fallen so far so quickly. People tend to keep it together in a conservative culture. After all, look what happened to Catholics after Vatican 2. That is simply my opinion.

I’ve seen too many foreigners come to America and become the worst of what our civilization has to offer. Not everyone mind you but a lot. And that also is my opinion.


12 posted on 10/07/2015 7:28:23 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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