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To: Oatka
Nice try. You stick to your "scientific" theories and I'll stick to my (sneeringly, according to you) "popular delusions".

Another example of the techniques used by the desperate skeptics: misquoting what their opponents say and calling them lunatics. I did not say "popular delusions." The skeptics are not popular. The merely make there false claims in the popular press, not in peer-reviewed scientific journals.

66 posted on 09/05/2015 2:31:50 AM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker
First off, I back down from the "sneering" comment. As soon as I hit the "Post" button (dammit) I realized that was out of line. Your "but they being ignorant, like you, of the science and scholarship" came off as a presumed intellectual and moral superiority.

Time after time one would read about new "scientific proof" and think, "Well, they finally got it." only to see it disproved as sloppy science at best or outright juggling the numbers.

I've seen some of the "research" by the Shroudies, their repeated demand for carbon dating - and when they didn't like the results, they wanted another test. I suspect the Shroud would look like Swiss Cheese until they got what they wanted. Then there was the "3-D effect" where some guy "proved" the image was of a real person - and they the fact that his numbers were "rounded up" disproved that one. Next was the "seeds from the Middle East" found in the cloth, which was then exposed as selective as foreign ones weren't counted.

Too much of that "science" you worship smacks of the "proof of Global warming" pseudo science. God knows (no pun intended), the disbelievers come up with some beauties as you have pointed out, but they are not alone. When a group sets out to prove a point their "findings" always tend to reinforce their point of view even when they profess to be open minded.

I take it you still believe that the cloth is the actual burial cloth of Christ and not some man-made artifact that no one has figured out how it was done?

67 posted on 09/08/2015 2:46:28 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate. [URL=http://media.photobucket.com/user/currencyjunkie/me)
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